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To astro or not to astro. That is the (burning) question!

9 years ago
We have a HUGE problem in our backyard. Is that 'really' a full size soccer goal, you ask. Yip! I live in a sports mad family of boys and I'm afraid it really really REALLLLY is!

So after turfing and re turfing several years running, we have decided to bite the bullet and astro turf our backyard. We've heard such mixed reviews about the new stuff that's available. I'm lead to believe it really has come a long way from the 'carpet grass' of old.

Could you share with us some of your experiences. Who did you use to professionally lay the turf? What did you use? Advantages... and especially any disadvantages?? Any input would be much appreciated.

I'd also love to hear from a professional/company that deals with this stuff. Thank you.

Comments (49)

  • 9 years ago

    Need to find one that doesn't get too hot.

  • 9 years ago
    Thank you chookchook! Let's get this thread to the top shall we!! I won't post on any of the other duplicates. How annoying that you can't delete a thread.
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  • 9 years ago

    Yes, we all feel that way. You have done well, you have posted good pictures, lets see what the Houzzers say, it's a great site that you have joined here, welcome.

  • 9 years ago
    This month's Home Beautiful has a family that did exactly what you're contemplating. They love it.

    A house on the highway near me has a corner of the nature strip done. It was boggy and worn. Now with a bit of dirt and leaves on, you'd never know it was fake.
  • 9 years ago
    Ah bigreader that was what I was hoping to hear. That you'd never know it was fake!!
  • 9 years ago
    Yes there are plenty that look real, but they can still give quite a bad carpet burn if the kids slide across it.
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi Houzz readers... Our company specialise in Synthetic turf supply and installation, please contact us at Lush Turf Solutions.

    It may help you to make an informed decision. we are based in Brisbane our office phone number 07 3390 2551 thanks and hope we can assist you further.

  • 9 years ago

    I work at a school that has it and be aware that it is really hard underneath due to compacting for levelling I guess and also it gets very very hot...too hot to walk on barefoot in summer if North facing. It feels like it traps and reflects heat into our building too. In heavy rain you get puddles for a while too as it is slow to drain. I would only recommend it if its sole use is for soccer. In that case it should be fine.

  • 9 years ago
    I've noticed quite a variation with quality. We are interested too, (apologies - I did a post last night, didn't realize you had one going).
    I like the product by 'turf green'... The blades of grass look thinner, more realistic and less shiny plastic.
    I've talked to a nearby neighbours who is very happy with his - but his house provides a lot of shade to their area - our yard is north facing... Worried it will be too hot rather than the cooling/organic nature of grass...
    Very interested to hear your progress...
  • 9 years ago

    Reading this thread with great interest as we are also considering astroturf - biggest concern is the heat ... any types that don't get so hot? or ways of countering this?

  • 9 years ago

    have had our "lawn" for two years now and still looks great and natural looking. we still get the occasional weeds and leaves that add to its natural look, I love real grass but it took a lot of work, I vacuum every third month and that's it


  • 9 years ago
    Gary thank you. We're receiving more positive feedback and the pros seem to outweigh the cons with installing the synthetic grass. I think we're going ahead. I'm just waiting on a couple more quotes.

    Sarah watch this space, I'll keep you posted with photos and who we end up using etc. One thing is for sure, 40mm grass pile is the one for us. I also particularly like the ones with brown or yellow thatch woven through the strands. It makes it so much more realistic than just straight up green.

    Another thing to keep in mind is if the synthetic lawn is butted up against reasoning walls/pavers/decks or any hard surface, then that makes it look more real still and it's hard to even tell it's fake sometimes. (My god, I sure have done my homework with this huge decision :-D lol!)
  • 9 years ago
    Went to a party recently which had (rented) strips of turf laid over some muddy grass. The soft feeling was so much better than the concrete-like feeling I have felt before. I would ask your tenderers if there is some kind of underlay product that will make it softer and more "grass-like" underfoot. This will of course need to take drainage into account for the water to seep through into the road base product the turf sits on. Maybe you could get some concrete piers put in as well for the goals to be more secure? Possibly too high on the wish list. Good luck!
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    We would all like to have natural grass, but realistically due to our harsh climate there is a need for an alternative. Too much shade or too much sun has the same result, poor conditions to grow a healthy lawn. Synthetic grass is a good solution if you choose a premium quality turf and a professional installation team.

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    Call us at Lush Turf Solutions on 07 3390 2551 we can provide all the information you need to make an informed decision if Synthetic turf is right for your situation.

  • 9 years ago
    Friends of ours installed fake grass and removed it after two years. It was too hot to use between late spring and early autumn as it heats up a lot with direct sunlight. A few of their plants and trees bordering the 'grass' died from the heat.
    They removed it and laid a very hardy grass.
  • 9 years ago
    Were waiting on quotes but it's probably going to be a YES from us. The mob we're looking at is going to do an aggregate that's solid underneath and slightly springy on top.

    We also have the dual problem of soccer madness plus no sun in the part that has all the mud. So once we get all the quotes in and make or final decision I will post pics and more feedback. Thank you all for being so very helpful.
  • 9 years ago

    AFL is good medicine for soccer madness.

  • 8 years ago
    I've just signed up for 35mm fake grass (Australian made) - due for completion early October.
    Love to hear your update and progress too.
  • 8 years ago

    Wow. I'm quite surprised at the rise of artificial turf but I also understand the trend as the effort that can go into maintain grass is very high. I discussed it with my dad on the weekend as we looked out at my withering grass with large bare patches. his learned opinion was that grasses have got softer and can longer cope with any significant foot traffic. On the upside, you don't get scratched by falling down on the harsh kikuyu that I grew up with.

  • 8 years ago

    Looks fantastic. Good to hear you like the feel and I doubt lasting the distance is even in question. Look forward to any updates as you live with it with any suggestions based on experience. Did you have it professionally installed? Meantime - sounds like you have some very happy campers who can play ball!

  • 8 years ago
    Thanks for reporting back. Glad you took the leap. Don't forget to drop back after summer, would love to know how it goes in the heat.
    I'm planning on having it in a small area in our backyard if we ever get there.
  • 8 years ago
    bigreader im hoping it won't get too hot. That deep shadow that the house casts on the backyard is the reason the real grass didn't grow. So I'm hoping it won't get too hot. Watch this space for feedback during summer.
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    fake grass always looks better than dead grass ! - good choice.

  • 8 years ago
    3132design yes it was professionally installed. We figured if we're doing it, we may as well do it properly.
  • 8 years ago
    Love to hear how your 'grass' is going...
    Ours going in next week.
  • 8 years ago
    Everyday we love it more than the day before!! Husby had been over it once with a leaf blower (we have bamboo along one edge and they recommend you don't let too much organic matter build up on the 'grass').

    Also you might find the new turf gives off a weird faint plasticky smell for a couple of days. I rang them straight away and they assured me that's because the rolls of turf are straight out of the factory. They were right, it was only slightly whiffy for a couple of days and that too only when the sun was very hot outside. Now it's absolutely okay.

    Other than that NO COMPLAINTS! We love it. The kids play outside till all hours in the evening and they've even stopped asking for tv!! Win win!!
  • 8 years ago
    Do share photos when it's done! So exciting.
  • 8 years ago
    Our 'turf' delayed... We've had lots of rain in Brissie...
    There's been no chance for them to 'glue' it down due to being too wet...
    Ironic that if I'd gone with the real stuff, rain would have been to our advantage.
    I must admit I am wondering about my choice...
    But will wait to see finished product...and how it copes with 2 Labradors... (And then the heat of summer...)
    Hope yours still going well...
  • 8 years ago

    It will be fine! You will enjoy the Summer!

  • 8 years ago
    We're loving ours Sarah. Waiting to see some photos once you're done.
  • 8 years ago
    Just put an update on my 'post'.
    Overall it going well... Been in for just less than a week.
    Kids and dogs love it.
    I've been a little unsure at first, but the practical aspects wins me over.
    Will be interesting to see over time.
    So far, so good...
  • 8 years ago
    Sarah I'd say so far so VERY GOOD! That looks amazing!
  • 8 years ago
    Any comments on the AstroTurf for toddlers or babies?
    I got a sample sent to me, and lots of plastic blades of grass came free,
    Is this a chocking problem for bubs, or was it just because it was a small cut sample?
  • 8 years ago
    Sorry, choking risk?
  • 8 years ago
    Catherine I'd say it's because it's just a cut sample. We've had ours a month now and cannot complain. But perhaps best you check with the installation guy.
  • 8 years ago

    thanks, this has been helpful as we're now looking at installing instead of compressed aggregate or pavers.. green is definitely more pleasing to the eye, i think. It will be north facing with some shadowing so I'm a little worried having read it retains heat, also about the size (I haven't a big yard but it will fill the area).

    I look forward to reading more comments ..

  • 8 years ago
    Choking hazard (unlikely?)- our grass puts up with 2 Labradors, who would pull up/dig/chew and it has survived almost 3wks now with no signs of damage at all. (I'm not sure that all products and installation are equal though - ours has metal edging with concrete plinths to reduce chance of dogs destroying it).

    Heat - yes we are finding it gives a little more heat, but not nearly as bad as I was imagining - ours is north facing.
    It's been hot the last few days, and no aircon in house, but I'm ok with it.
    Can be hot to walk on - so be careful & wear shoes if in full sun.
    It's not like that all the time though.
    They do caution you if there are glass panel fences... But didn't apply to us.

    I've certainly gotten used to ours now and loving the practicality.
    In fact, we are going ahead with more down the side of the house in a few weeks.
  • 8 years ago
    We're in the middle of a 42deg day in Sydney right now and yes, the grass is certainly hotter than real turf but on a day like this we won't be outside anyway!! The pros far outweigh the cons for our family. It's been close to 8 weeks now and we're still loving it.
  • 8 years ago

    Geepers, mate! Only in the 20 s here in Vic today.

  • 8 years ago

    It's a shame to use fake grass unless there is a good reason. Lying on the grass is cool & I would worry about children falling over & getting a carpet burn like graze.

  • 8 years ago
    Yes - I'd prefer real grass too, but we now all enjoy the outdoors rather than our sad 'before' photo...
    (Grass struggled to grow)

    My kids now love it - they actually lie on it and read!
    We have real grass out the front and they never use it!
    I'd still prefer 'real' though, but in 'reality'... The pic says it all!
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Hey there thereddys, not sure if you've sorted your turf issues already, but if not we have a range of real-look, hardy and pet friendly synthetic turfs designed for various needs, including sports.

    You can view our full turf range here: http://www.coolaroo.com/synthetic-grass
    Hope that helps! And good luck

  • 8 years ago

    Coolaroo - we are considering laying artificial turf around pavers etc - so lots of small quantities .. is this do-able or does it tend to rip up as the amount of 'turf' is so small?


  • 8 years ago

    We have it at school. It does get very hot in Summer and smells like burning rubber.

  • 8 years ago
    Look at a variety of companies/quotes... They will give you samples.
    We found there is a huge variation in quality.
    Please don't think that all fake grass is like that in the big hardware stores... There are better products out there...

    I put a note in letterbox of a neighbour nearby whose fake grass looked great.
    They were very pleased with theirs and happy to share their experience.

    Checkout what it looks like for a bigger area/ what is nearby.
    I don't think it will look great next to real grass.

    Ours wasn't cheap, but we are very happy with it.
  • 4 years ago

    A 4 years later update would be great!!

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I read a lot about synthetic turfs and decided to not go for it . Planning to level up use grass pavers and go with real grass rather. Just FYI here as someone else might find it useful. I found this video after weeks of research ! Of course in YouTube and Google.

    I was alarmed at the effects that prolonged exposure to these kinds of materials can cause to our children and our community.

    I wanted to bring this to your attention so you would be aware of the side effects if you were planning for synthetic turf in any of the school areas.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEVeAmqHTSM

    https://www.center4research.org/children-athletes-play-toxic-turf-playgrounds/


    We r still going to use HDPE type paver plastic underneath but covered by real grass and pebbles ! . still a much greener option and life time is minimum 20 years plus made from r cycled plastic. Looking at cirtex or turf grid pavers.


  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Thanks - and especially thanks for the links.