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Ensuite/WIR layout

Hi there, in the process of designing our new house. I have had some feedback from someone that currently has this layout and they don't like it. They say it feels boxed in and a waste of space. She also mentioned the moisture and clothes aren't a good combination, we will have fans. Thoughts?? Thank you!


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  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    Oklouise, kind of you to draw both variations, but I like yours visually so much better!

  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    Is the T-shaped wall full height, floor to ceiling?

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  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    So you would need two extraction fans, then...one over toilet and one over shower? That's if wall goes to ceiling....

  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    Just wondering if the mirror would fill the entire width of the wall in this layout? I guess cavity slider to toilet would need to be installed before mirror adhered to wall. Does weight of mirror impact on integrity of the cavity wall, does anyone know?

  • siriuskey
    6 years ago

    The T shaped wall in the photo has a fixed window full width above the vanity, It could just be open/ have louvers across the width of the shower and WC, or open above the vanity on the shower side and enclosed on the WC side. Love the big window too, not sure how that opens and is it being kept?

  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    I like the ensuite on Piniterest, Danielle. I think it's the symmetry that is so appealing to me.

  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    I'm pretty sure it doesn't go all the way to the ceiling. I was wondering how we put a door on the toilet and if it would look funny if it wasn't as the way.
  • oklouise
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    overlapping all the last posts...for your last suggestion pin it gbjf etc we would need to see the whole floor plan to see how to rearrange the whole area as it needs a different shape space...happy to look if you want to post the whole plan...in the meantime the 2700 x 3400 ensuite is luckily bigger than i'd allowed and here's my last variation with the extra space...the double shower could be bigger, toilet ok, vanity 1800 wide with curved ends to save naked hips and the wall behind the vanity has to be thicker for either a cavity slider OR an in wall vanity mirror doored wall cabinet (you can't have both and the cavity slider also creates problems for the plumber as you can't have wall mounted taps)....i suggest that the space would feel much less "dungeon" like if you have 2100 tall 150mm thick partition walls to separate the spaces with simple 800mm wide openings to toilet and shower and consider wall hung vanity, toilet, in wall medicine cabinet and the offset entry door from the bedroom creates less congestion in the middle of the ens when two people are trying to use the rooms at the same time


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  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    thanks Ann, I drew that version but I don't think it's long enough to do, and won't get a bigger vanity or anything to fit in. and I worry about us fighting at the sinks and banging or elbows haha. I'll put up a photo
  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    Thanks, siriuskey. I was referring to oklouise's latest draft. I hadn't yet looked at your photo, but I certainly find that ensuite attractive too.

  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    here's what I drew to similar to the one from Pinterest
  • siriuskey
    6 years ago

    Sorry I posted before seeing your last post annb, the mirror isn't the full width of the wall only as wide as the opening to the shower and the WC. A sliding door and a large mirror on the same wall would need the builder to check it out. cheers

  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    Oh yeah, good point...I hadn't thought about the taps. So are you wanting wall-mounted taps?

  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    Haha I know! We are all pretty quick on the draw! No pun, cuz I can't draw.

  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    Thx siriuskey, that's what I thought too.

  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    I haven't actually thought about the taps yet so yes that's another thought. was hoping for a mixer can that be done on the wall?
  • siriuskey
    6 years ago

    Ok I'd consider reducing the width of the vanity from 1800 so as to make the opening to the shower wider, more user friendly. The shaving cabinets don't have to be recessed they still look great wall mounted and give great extra storage

  • siriuskey
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Also would have taps installed onto vanity as per the photo to free up the cavity if needed

  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    I think the layout in that drawing, Danielle, has a crowded look. Also, if the toilet was self-contained as the drawing illustrates, and the shower surround was glass, then is a visual imbalance. Maybe I'm being too pedantic, just trying to imagine how it would feel to me.

  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    just saw your plan Louise, thanks for that. I really like that idea. I'll post up a pick of that whole area so you can get a better visual.
  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    I'm agreeing with too Ann, the original is more open.
  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    here is that end of the house, measurements included.
  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    are those wall mountable shaving cabinets expensive?? I really like the idea of those aswell. if a cavity door for the toilet will be an issue I could probably put up with a normal swinging door
  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    Which design layout do you like best, forgetting plumbing? Which do you and your partner think you would be happy using on daily basis?

  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    my husband is happy with what we have got, I like the idea of swapping the shower and toilet around. I just want to make sure we have enough light. I don't think we have to worry too much about steam, we will have fans and a door to close it off.
  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    Just curious about the back wall of garage...it will be brick, correct? If it was double brick, it could serve as a huge feature wall in your bedroom (bed set against it) and then the study, ensuite & WIW reconfigured to fit remaining space in that end of house. Just throwing out a wild idea.

  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    Now there's an idea! that sounds amazing. we have brick features in the living too so will tie nicely.
  • siriuskey
    6 years ago

    Mirrored shaving cabinets are great value and come in all sizes, widths and heights, you can check out bunnings and plumbing suppliers

  • oklouise
    6 years ago

    Danielle the pin iy arrangement would not fit in your plan without compromising the bedroom, study or alfresco so the minor alterations to the original plan works best


    and please consider opening the window instead of always using the fans and my favourite Shaftless Solar Skylights (not tubes) would be ideal in both rooms

  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    I agree. and yes opening a window would always be a better option which we will do when it's not freezing (we live in the Ballarat area in Vic so we have quite cold Winters) are those skylights pricey?
  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    I might be wrong don't think there's enough leeway to have hinged door into WC rather than slider. We had that scenario in last house and we regretted not giving more consideration to size of WC to accomodate the hinged door. We couldnt have a cavity slider.

  • oklouise
    6 years ago

    we also live in an area with very long cold seasons and we do have fans and underfloor heating in our bathrooms but still prefer to use every opportunity to have some fresh air...we have three different sized Solar Skylights for different areas from a modest ensuite to a large family room and we think they're a bargain compared to a dingy room or electric lights on during the day and they don't have any hole in the roof to create potential rain leaks or leak out expensive heated air and don't need a specialist installation...check out Solar Skylights on the Bunnings website for prices (although there are many other cheaper brands and suppliers since we used illume brand) and, here's a plan of the reversed bedroom if you want to see how it would fit together with the bed against the garage wall

  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    thanks for those tips, I will look into those skylights, I think they sound like a good option. as for that plan, it's a good idea but we won't have our views anymore so I think we will stick with the way it is. we might do some timber panelling on the wall of the bed.
  • oklouise
    6 years ago

    always good to check out lots of ideas before the plans are finalised

  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    that's right that's why I'm here, everyone has been so helpful, I love this site!!
  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    You are very kind & clever to draw that, oklouise. It's interesting layout that way. If window in bedroom was much larger (don't know size isbeing considered), it would let a lot more light into the room - potentially. Have to consider view and aspect on that side of house. What is on that side...boundary fence, garden?

  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    Yup, I wouldn't trade away views, either!

  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    Will you have a sliding glass door in master so you can access the alfresco area?

  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    Or French doors?

  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    yes we have changed the window to a sliding door. French doors sound like a great idea
  • siriuskey
    6 years ago

    My idea of your ensuite as per the photo, the shower needed to be a bit wider in the 3D and have a glass door. I did consider putting the bench seat right across the wall into the shower which makes shaving legs easier. I have made the Wc and shower 1m wide cheers



  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    I love French doors esp when they lead out into a garden. I'd just caution against using them on front of house unless they are well secured, as they are apparently easy to break into without breaking the glass or leaving much evidence they were the point of entry.

  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    Could towel rail run across front of vanity so easy access at both sinks? I suppose that might interfere with cupboards/drawers, unless the vanity was open only below the point where cabinet front hides the plumbing. Wider WC is better.

  • siriuskey
    6 years ago

    I think just on the end of the vanity for the person showering or as a vanity hand towel, I have my towel rails across the front of my long vanity and it works but if using draws would make it awkward, there are other towel rails and places to put them.. Yes I like at least 1m for Shower and WC if it's possible

  • oklouise
    6 years ago

    another view with the French doors from Master Bedroom


    ...notice how the study now includes extra space previously used up with the short hallway

  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    Oh, I was thinking about when just washing hands after WC use or washing hands and face. Reason I brought it up is because I have short handrail affixed to my end of vanity, but hubby does not and so his hand towel is always lounging around on the vanity bench looking decidedly untidy or dirty (esp after he's been gardening). We didn't think that through.

  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    You are amazing, oklouise. Really like the French doors with access to alfresco, seem more private and purposeful. And they would be less visible from street (if that applies).

  • oklouise
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    although i love French Doors we've discovered the hard way that sliders are more easily secured, more weatherproof, easier to flyscreen, to curtains for privacy and take up no space when open..unless it's a giant room French doors leave nowhere else to sit but on the bed but sliders allow space for a small sitting area or chest of drawers in the corner and/or wall mounted tv if you like to watch tv in bed

  • annb1997
    6 years ago

    The doors can be hinged to open outwards. Ours opened onto verandah and back garden. Had drapes shut for sleeptime. It was a narrower sitting area so we each had chair and ottoman on either side of doors. Wasn't wide enough to accomodate side tables, which we would have liked for setting down books and coffee cups. I used the window sills next to chair for this. The devil is in the detail, and can learn so much through trial and error.

  • Danielle Quarrell
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    you guys are awesome thanks so much. definitely got some thinking to do. all really great ideas so thank you.