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What do you think of floating boards in a kitchen?

Shirley Cecchetto

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I'm having my kitchen redone and would like your thoughts on flooring please. One place I went to said its best to install boards after kitchen goes in. kicker gets put in after flooring has been laid. Another said it didn't matter. Our choice ultimately but he would install before kitchen installation. opinions?

Comments (17)

wauchincloss
Only install before if it is properly protected - not plastic but masonite or similar.
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bindable
When we had ours done, the kitchen cabinets were put in first, next the floating floor then the kickboards (as what you said) and skirting.
If they said they'd do it all after and kickboards/skirting, I'd be concerned that to finish the edges they'd want to put molding around it to tidy the edge - a look I didn't want.
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Hi oklouise, thank you again so much for your suggestions to help me reflect on my choices! The great thing about this whole process is that it has really helped me clarify my must haves/dealbreakers and nice to haves. Key elements that I don't want to forego are: 1) a "master suite" with large WIR + private ensuite+ direct private garden access/views. The current northern bedrooms are elevated and do not allow these elements and better suited to small kids as no external doors and can be eyeballed from the kitchen. 2)The kitchen must be the heart of the home and connected to all living spaces so the host never feels disconnected from guests & can watch kids from almost any living space.I attended a party last weekend which had the kitchen blocking the living room from the outdoor space and the host commented they regretted it after renovating. 3)The dining room must be an end destination vs a corridor so it does not become a dumping grounds for bags, mail & everything else as the nearest flat surface to the entry point. 4) All new bedrooms must also be min 3 -3.2M wide on the narrowest side for me to justify them. 5) I reviewed all my lookbooks and tear sheets pulled to date and its a clear pattern that I want my 'adult' living and dining/entertaining spaces connected to the rear garden preferably wrapping l-shape round a deck or courtyard garden. In a sense 'broken' vs open plan but still visible through glass etc. 6) I would not be prepared sacrifice the prime N/NE aspect with utility rooms. 7) I don't wish to place a verandah at the front as it will never be used except extra maintenance and can create shading in summer via other methods. 8) capacity to rent out room with private living quarters. There are many splitter blocks in my area and I don't need it to operate as legal dual occupancy. 9) single level living -no second story bedrooms etc. 10) separation of main bedrooms when renting out section of house Phew....I think thats most of the checklist criteria I have been working to. Still think tanking the street appeal/front facade style but its probably leaning toward lux byron bay beach cottage meets modern coastal with some retro elements to hint at the history of this 1950s house!
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Shirley Cecchetto
It’s been decided. Going in afterwards. Skirting and kickers going in last. Thanks for taking time to reply.
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Jo M
Only problem with doing boards after installing kitchen is it usually means the boards will not go under the cabinets. So if ever want to change layout of your kitchen in the future you will have to change the floor too. Plus bear in mind it also makes a height difference to your bench.
I only know this as our tradies did it this way in our last kitchen. I wouldn’t do it this way again.
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Angela Dunlop
I've always been taught to put the floors UNDER the cabinets - for both a bathroom and kitchens. I'm just about to start a reno on a kitchen that had the "incorrect" way of laying the floor, and as my new kitchen has a slightly different foot print I'm having to re floor completely. Also Height issues as mentioned about. The same applies to tiled floors. Always lay down 1st.
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Get Andy Building P/L
Hi Shirley, hope you love your new kitchen. Whether to put the cabinetry over or not will depend on the type of floor you are putting down. If you are putting down solid overlay or round and groove, this goes down first. You need to have the floor sanded and the first coat of finish applied, kitchen is installed. Then the final coats of finish then the kickers installed.
However...
If you are installing engineered boards that do not get fixed to the floor (aka floating floor) then the cabinetry is first, then floor goes up to the edge of the cabinets with a 10mm gap then the kickers installed so to cover the gap.
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Central Coast Floormaster Kincumber
With floating floors we always recommend laying the floor after the kitchen is installed, leave a 10mm expansion and then your kicks.... this way if you have any plumbing disasters in the future you do not have the kitchen on top of your flooring... also you do not have the worry with the kitchen trades damaging your floor!! This happened recently on a job we did where the homeowner went against our advise and the kitchen cabinetry was dropped on brand new Engineered Timber Herringbone Flooring..... to say the homeowner was disappointed is an understatement. Very happy to read you have decided to install your flooring after :-)
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Jennifer Bradley
I would try to ensure you never have a flood - from dishwasher or whatever. Our friends moved into their house with brand new floating wooden flooring. the dishwasher flooded and it all needed replacing - from kitchen right through to lounge. Including dining and family rooms - and yes, it did - you only needed to look to see the mess that resulted.
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bob marley
always put floor down first to allow future changes.
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paleyhemer
I would think twice about boards or laminated boards heard of two friends plumbing problems in last six months total kaos!
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spmm
I suggest floor first - otherwise you end up with scotia as a way to cover up the gap. Scotia is like an extra small, very annoying skirting board.
Gap - expansion gap required, ideally the skirting boards sit on top of the floor and hides the gap.
If you put the kitchen cupboards in first then there will need to be an expansion gap between the boards and the kickboards - hence scotia.’

Putting floor in last means you are not putting flooring under cabinets - ie additional cost - really be clear on exactly what you want as a final finish.
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Shirley Cecchetto
I’ve received different and conflicting advice. All of which seems valid. Lay first cause you may want to change kitchen layout. Guys....I have had my existing kitchen 20 years and it was here when we arrived. Add another 15 years. I’m in my 50’s...highly unlikely I will be changing layout. I’m choosing floating boards because I wanted to soften the otherwise very modern kitchen that I’m getting. Floating instead of actual boards because of $$. I don’t want to put tiles or concrete in case of a possible plumbing mishap. Positive vibes. Thanks to all for your advice.
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Zoe Wilkinson
We wanted a floating floor in our new home.. It was recommended that we didn't have one due to probable buckling over larger areas due to changes of temperature. (New homes are very airtight.) Also the kitchen company didn't like putting floating floors in as their insurance company wouldn't cover the kitchen warranty. So we went with vinyl floor tiles which are stuck to the existing floor. I live in NZ.
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Kathy
Having gone through this stage i would always put the floorboards down first then kitchen etc., we didn’t have an option as our builder would not allow us to do it this way and I hate the extra skirting that goes on top of the edges...the scotia. I wanted clean straight finish and ended up with the extra skirting they looks c**p and am forever trying to convince hubbie to rip out the floor and extra skirting and tile it instead. PLEASE do it properly and put the floorboards down first otherwise you’ll regret it like I do.
Absolutely hate it!!!!!!
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missmel07
I have engineered wide oak boards which are fixed to my subfloor so that the surface is more stable when I need to sand and refinish the boards down the track. My floors were laid prior to my kitchen cabinetry being installed and two years later I am very happy with how they are performing and the fact that I was able to make a slight adjustment to my island bench position after installation (which would not have been possible if the floor was not continuous beneath the joinery.) Hope this helps.
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Shirley Cecchetto
@kathy we are taking out our existing skirting boards and the flooring company are going to lay the new skirting for us. Kickers are going in after flooring is laid. This is what both our flooring and kitchen company suggested. The brown strip is where we removed old skirting. I will keep my eye on the trades.
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Kathy
Hey Shirley looks good so far. I know your making the right decision by putting the flooring first. Trust me you won't regret it like I do. Make sure you show me pics when done.
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