Hi Helen Thank you.. If I cant find the black leather chairs I want in the design I want I will possibly do it in black fabric as that is available Your comments most welcome Thank u Desi

I ended up going with no handles for the upper cupboards, but handles for the lower cupboards and drawers for the following reasons: - they were mostly hidden from view anyway due to the island bench; - they were quite a bit cheaper than shark nose (i.e. no handles); and - I wasn't overly keen on crumbs and other kitchen mess making its way into the drawers due to the shark nose design. These articles may help: [https://www.houzz.com.au/magazine/is-a-handleless-kitchen-right-for-you-stsetivw-vs~49954976[(https://www.houzz.com.au/magazine/is-a-handleless-kitchen-right-for-you-stsetivw-vs~49954976) [https://www.houzz.com.au/magazine/6-factors-to-consider-when-choosing-handles-for-your-kitchen-cabinets-stsetivw-vs~30734212[(https://www.houzz.com.au/magazine/6-factors-to-consider-when-choosing-handles-for-your-kitchen-cabinets-stsetivw-vs~30734212)

Thanks Ruth BT but I couldn't find the right style there. BUT I think I may have located some in NSW at Marina Isles: http://www.marinaisles.com.au/allproducts/fir17/ They're expensive but I have passed the details to my cabinet maker. Maybe he can score a good deal for me. Still hoping to find another (cheaper) supplier if possible but the only other place I've found who sells these is in the US. Not ideal.

Personally I wouldn't install any handles in the recessed decorative part of any panel. Where would you put the handles on a door panel, I would guess on the frame?