Agree with sirius, 900 is not ideal for space either side of island. You could increase to 1000 and reduce pantry width to 1320. You will still have 920w standing room in pantry if the shelves on the left wall are 400 deep (and you won't need the bench on the back wall in pantry to be 700d - 600 would be sufficient - so that will make the standing room lengthways roomy at 1350).

Forgot to mention that you will be sorry if you change from a 900 cook top to a 600, the 900 gives better space for pots, say when wanting to make pasta, fry pan and large pasta pot, totally agree with Nicole re the pantry. Would you be able to work the pantry so that the fridge is facing the Island this would allow you to have a double wall oven in it's place, there's not a lot of space for side by side 600 ovens in your floorplan

Thanks for all the feedback, particularly in relation to the entrance into the pantry. Agree and we'll look to change that around. I think the main reason it's on that way is due to my wife wanting a pantry door on there. Would it make better sense to have a small wall (nib wall?) on the dining side of the hallway so that the bench was the same all away along?

We cant really move the pantry any further back so not sure we can fit the fridge in he space in front of the island. Maybe it's easier to stick with gas and just run a bottle to the side of the house.

@siriuskey - can you further explain how you would have the door into the butlers as I'm not sure a cavity slider would fix on the left hand side. Cheers and thanks again for your thoughts.

Is there any way to put two stacked wall ovens where the fridge is? And consider moving the fridge & building into cabinetry beside the pantry? Without seeing the rest of your plan, I’m not sure if that will resolve the problem for you.

While this layout isn't the same, this is the location I'm referring to for the fridge. The grey cabinetry beside the white kitchen would be your wall oven tower. And the space between the ovens and the fridge would be your opening for your walk in pantry. Sorry I couldn't find anything better right now - have to wrangle a few little kidlets and sort breakfast, beds, lunches and get them on their way for the day :) I'll pop in later and see if I can't find some more photos.

Thanks Wild Heart for the feedback. I think ideally we'd like to keep the butlers pantry as it just gives that extra area to keep things out of the way when guests are there etc. Especially things like kettles, toasters etc. In terms of the fridge depth I hadn't noticed this, I've just looked at our current fridge and with the space for ventilation its 740mm deep....... We'll need to come up with something as this will look ridiculous with the fridge coming out at least 140 mm. I'll post up the rest of the plan for the lower floor but really wanted that open living and dining area flowing into the alfresco area.

So I think realistically, based on the feedback provide above (which I really appreciate!), there maybe some more pressing issues. Should we keep the 900m gas and then look at the following:

1. How to increase depths between island to 1000mm

2, Where is the better placement for the dishwasher

3. Look at the opening on the butlers pantry door and if we need a door on there at all

4. How to better place the fridge so that it's not sticking out nearly 140mm

Thanks again for the feedback everyone, kind of raised more questions that answers!!!

Hi Craig, as genkil mentioned the kitchen is too small for a WIP and the example photo that " The wild hear"t posted is a great suggested layout by using the WIP space as part of the kitchen and then as per your plan you have your laundry next to that.

In your previous post you were trying to reduce the over all length of the house which is OK but to squeeze the busiest room in the house into a small space would be a big mistake. What kitchen facility will you have for your wife's planned child minding business

based on Nic's suggestion a wall oven and microwave could be stacked in the pantry facing the kitchen and a 90cm electric cooktop over an optional extra 60 or 90 wide oven but the pantry would need to be deeper to allow for a cavity sliding door with the bonus of more open shelves above and below 60cm deep counters

Hi Craig, I still think the kitchen is too small for the house as it is and would be better to open up the spaces.

This is a rough idea which gives you a hidden corner pantry, the shelves are all cut as an "L" shape so you have visual and access to everything stored

. This also puts the fridge in a better position,with a larger Island and more storage, and now with a longer back wall you can have Wall ovens 900 cook top and sink with DW.

This could also allow direct access to the alfresco from the kitchen and an out door kitchen BBQ on the same wall as the kitchen cabinets.

Having a young family you don't want to be standing in a cupboard cleaning up, just ensure that you have the newer larger deep square sinks they really help swallow any mess

Hi Dreamer, yes the bench top can be deeper at the splash back window but the wall will still be below the bench top as it will behind any wall cabinets or fridge, ie the depth of the cabinets and any appliances will still be measured from the wall and not the window. cheers

Just wanted ensure that Craig understood that there wasn't any extra depth available for the fridge position he's considering ( hope he changes that idea) he can't afford to use anymore floor space in his posted plan