We're building 4x3.5 Two with ensuite and the others with a jack and Jill. Life has changed unfortunately and now everyone in the household works, kids stay at home longer and ageing parents sometimes move in for care. At the moment we have a 3 x 1 and really the only thing we really want for is a second toilet, which growing up we had because we had the one out the back with the red backs.

@mlk01, You are right about the message button, I have it on my profile but no one else seems to so that's odd! If you click on my profile for example, you will see on the top line right beside the profile picture: Your house, Ideasbook, Bookmarks, Activities, Messages. In fact I remember that when anyone typed a reply like I'm doing now, you used to be able to click a "private" button, which meant only the person you were typing to saw your comment. Perhaps Houzz can answer these anomalies?? I'm not on Facebook or Twitter, never got into it and have no reason to do so anytime soon ha-ha As for talking privately to someone, you could post your email address here as could oklouise and delete it whilst you are still able to edit, as I've done once in the past. Just not sure how long the edit feature lasts.

Hi, If the exhaust is to be vented outside and is not being mount on an external wall then consider using an in-line fan. This is an exhaust fan that has the motor and fan blade element located inside the ducting. Because the motor and blades are not located directly beside or on top of the opening, the result is considerably quieter than conventional fans of similar performance. In-line fans come in many sizes including very powerful units that have blades far bigger than most ceiling mounted units can support. To ensure the fan is sufficiently sized you need to determine the volume of the bathroom. With some inline fans it is possible to have multiple inlets (exhaust openings), so one fan can cover multiple areas/rooms. An in-line fan can only be used if there is sufficient void to carry the ducting. Important to consider access to the void in case the fan blades and/or motor require maintenance. Finally an in-line fan will cost more to buy and install. Hope the above is useful.

So, I' e been having a think about each of the three designs and what I like about each and thought I'd give some feedback to see if you have any more thoughts because you have been so helpful. I think my favourite one is the third one, with swapping the bath/shower over and being able to get storage into the hallway. But I am really unsure what to do with the laundry, I can't see any option to make it work without moving the external door. I also wondered if I made the sower 1200, then the toilet could be closer to the shower and then this makes even more space for the storage with could even be in the laundry like a coat/shoe area OR would it be large enough to put a wall hung toilet in there with small wall hand basin. I don't know if that might feel like the toilet is in a tiny box :) But I do love how we have managed to gain some extra space from the bathroom in that design. I also really like this second option particularly the laundry layout and extra toilet space (as it has a window in the toilet area). But I am still unsure about the shower next to bath and wonder if it would work to swap the shower with the toilet in that space? I'm just concerned about a shower next to the entry door though and if it makes it a bit tight with toilet next to bath for bathing kids etc. But I do love the space in the laundry and extra toilet room. And then this last one I think the bathroom layout could work really well but I am not overly keen on the powder room with door tot he hallway because there would be no window in that room, so I'm wondering how to shuffle that laundry/powder room space to fit with that bathroom layout. Thanks for you help.