Louise, I love the door idea on that appliance cupboard pic you shared - that has been a dilemma too so thank you. How wide do you reckon that appliance cabinet is? I'm looking at the second freezer position in my plan - I put it there cuz I reckon it's the siberia end of the kitchen and it will be a pain if the main fridge is all the way up there.... Plus it doesn't take up precious room in a walk in pantry (need room for door to open too). At the moment the back wall is symmetrical hence why the appliance cupboard is a strange 832 wide! Good news is I've minimised (even further!) what's going to be in the laundry (that will be like a cupboard now, but hey a compromise to get a decent pantry) as walk in pantry is much higher priority, so I think I have lots of room for a decent pantry - will post pic once I've drawn it :-)

Hi I am really interested in this discussion for similar reasons. Currently our plans squeeze in a pantry under the stairs so 1.5 m X 1 m. Builder suggests we shrink ensuite from 3350 x 1650 to 2350 x1650 long so it becomes a proper walk in pantry 2m x1.5 m. I was concerned I will end up with two nonfunctional spaces. But it sounds like the pantry will work. What are everyone's opinion on a master ensuite size. It means I'll have a single basin vanity only 500 m wide

Thank you Geluka and Margot, the breakfast bar won't be 2 level, the app we used to draw up this design doesn't allow a single piece of bench (to wrap around the support column) hence the split level look. We will have a glass door for our mud room/laundry entrance. Probably won't have a pergola as the courtyard will be quite small and narrow post extension. I am considering moving the oven tower to the end of the bench housing the stove top. Assuming a 900mm stove, 600mm oven tower that will leave 600mm clearance on either side of the stove top. Many thanks, Ee ;)

understanding all your restrictions would help suggest other options but the original staircase uses too much space and if you add scaled sized furniture to the original plans you'll see that the meals area is mostly taken up with walkways to the stairs and back door and there's very little space left for a dining table..the stairs have to fit both the floors of the house and it's not possible to reduce staircase space upstairs without also changing downstairs