the new location would make it easier for serving meals and the space next to the fridge is better for appliances but how much space is for the kitchen cabinets, what is the size of the new island and how much space is for the meals area?

you mention having the new kitchen put in so you must have a floor plan?

I don't think I have ever seen the 2 'appliances' beside each other -- the stove and the fridge ! Hot and cold just seems strange . If you are doing a new kitchen , I would have thought its the ideal opportunity to do a wall oven , probably a microwave , and a seperate hob unit . To spend several thousand or more , and keep a $100 stove doesn't make much sense to me -- if you are going for a 60's vibe , you'd spend the bare basics -- if updating to 2020 , you'd do the lot IMO .

Oops , I might have misread it -- you might be doing new appliances too ? Yes , a floorplan would be needed .

And on that basis , I assume you are taking a couple of walls out too , but you then have 2 reasonable sized dining areas ?

Hi Louise,
We have a seperate dining room that we will use for dinners. The meals area is just for breakfasts. The new island will be 800 wide. Yes the new floorplan hasn’t been finalised as we need to choose where to put the oven. Portray this is the original photo we are renovating it and putting in an inbuilt oven and seperate stove top. Just unsure where to position both.

*Pottsy

I wouldn't have it hard up against a fridge. A stove is a spot you need elbow room while you are cooking.

I’d move the oven but need to see dimensioned plan even if only rough

Would this help, basic dimensions

Belinda, from a previous post you made about a month ago, you were knocking walls down, maybe extending the kitchen into the meals area.
Are you knocking walls down, or just updating kitchen. I would hate for you to spend money on a kitchen renovation, for it to be pulled apart in a years time.

Hi Siriuskey,
Thanks for the measurements. Pottsy good point. Dreamer, we have decided not to knock any walls down and just upgrade the kitchen.

if the whole kitchen and meals area is 5m x 3m..what portion will be used for breakfast, will there be a table and chairs or just the breakfast bar and will you use the same location for the sink?? on your previous post you asked about removing walls between kitchen and dining living area and opening the meals area with a glass sliding door to a future new deck?? if you don't plan any future changes the kitchen could be like this

but, i think the island makes the room too cramped and you could have more cabinets along the sink wall and use a narrow table as the island if the existing kitchen is in safe working condition i wouldn't install new cabinets until after the other alterations are completed

Kate this might help

We crossed over OKL, , I think the Island will work if wanted

Belinda has said the new island/peninsula will be 800mm wide.
Belinda if your not knocking walls down, could the kitchen and meals area be a big kitchen. With a freestanding large kitchen table. As per oklouise. The meals area will become cramped once you install a 800mm peninsula.

Belinda why is the island 800, how deep are the cabinets and what overhang are you allowing for sit up, min 300 is best.

Hi all,

Same location for the sink. Just some stools for breakfast bar. We are keeping the meals area and not extending the kitchen into it in case we do an extension to the outdoor area with the possibility of knocking down laundry wall which is something we have in mind. The island on the side is 800m wide we thought to allow for breakfast space. Cabinets will be standard.

We have decided on a 600mm oven and a 750mm cooktop. We are just unsure of where to position the oven + cooktop. Will either be left of the sink or where it is with a small pull out spiced drawer inbetween the oven and the fridge.

Two doors take up too much space in the kitchen, suggest using one as a servery into the dining, the dining could have a lovely barn door opening into the passageway .

Banquette seating for the breakfast nook to make better use of the small space, lovely to sit under the window

Thanks siriuskey. Great idea with the banquette seating! I love that!