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But then the island would be facing towards the wall not the dining area. That also wouldn’t be functional

Why does the island bench need to face the dining room? With your designs there is so much wasted space in the middle of the kitchen.

@rose213 GI - take a look at this house, currently for sale in Northcote, Melbourne. It's a single fronted modern build (area has lots of period homes) with a narrow long kitchen. The kitchen is galley style & has lots of windows & glass bifold doors looking to the outside. It has a good connection to the dining & living even though it doesn't face the dining room as such. You could have a similar floor plan if you were able to take down the wall between the dining & living. Obviously cost & structural considerations would come into play here 🙂

5 Wastell Street, Northcote
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please show plans including adjoining rooms with dimensions... where do the doors lead to?

Thank you for helping out. Here is a photo and floor plan, just as i drew in the floor plan moved oven and fridge. Maybe not the smartest decision we made but at that time we didn’t plan to completely renovate the kitchen.

Sorry I attached a wrong floor plan in the previous comment

Also we removed the door between dining and living area

I agree with dreamer. Rotate island. Guests sitting at island can look at to alfresco, island also helps to define kitchen from walkway

But then when preparing food I won’t be able to chat with guests sitting in the dining area

I have a similar layout and I have no trouble chatting to guests/family at my kitchen table . I use my centre island for food prep and cooking . Draw with chalk or mark with tape a centre island and try chatting to someone at the table from that position .

I find the peninsula is a barrier keeping others out. The island should have stools and the openness will allow people to more effectively participate. But we all have our own preferences. Do what suits you.

Because you have already made changes, ie: moving the fridge and wall oven a free standing parallel island won't work so perhaps something like the following.

A 3000 x 900 island butting up to the wall next to the new fridge and WO will also give some privacy into the kitchen from the dining and when entering from the garage via the pantry. cheers

@siriuskey so what’s the main reason you feel rotating peninsula would be better? Is it because the distance between the current peninsula and the oven and sink is too much? Or because it’s enclosing the kitchen and doesn’t allow for open concept kitchen

The following might answer your questions, a servery window to the alfresco will add to this

Thanks Siriuskey and kate I started to considering rotating the peninsula/island. Siriuskey your design requires extending the wall next to the kitchen how about giving 90 cm distance between the wall and build an island like this plan i made with painting tape. I spared 110 cm from the cabinets and considered the width of the island 105 cm and 230 cm long.

Whats the distance from the cooktop wall to the start of the window and door plus the size of each, and width and depth of the WO and fridge as there are very few dimensions available. You appear to have already renewed the flooring?

I drew this very basic layout. Thank you again

And yes we renewed the floor already. Just after we moved in. First we did not plan to fully renovate the kitchen we planned to paint the wooden cabinets. But although the painting was fine but the kitchen cabinets aren’t so practical just four small drawers.

Like the green tape. I’m guessing the floor boards don’t continue under the cabinets. :(

i also prefer the island parallel to the long walls so that anyone sitting at the much longer island or the dining table can talk to the cook and sitting at the island allows a view out the window but i would move the stove out of the tight corner to make an appliance space and add an extra opening between island and walls to keep traffic out of the centre of the kitchen

To not disturb your new flooring you might consider this, but I still prefer my first floorplan

We don’t mind getting someone to move the floor boards I think rotating the island is worth the effort. Thank you so much

I was hesitant to have an island facing the wall at the beginning but thanks to you now i like the idea and I think we will ho with that. I really appreciate your time and help.

Rose213 Gi,

the plan that oklouise has drawn is exactly what I was thinking, in my first post. It utilises the kitchen space well, and still allows for the movement between the garage, and internal living areas.

I'm glad you kept an open mind.

Thank you so much @dreamer

I'am really pleased that you can see the benefit of the galley style kitchen and how it opens up the kitchen and dining rooms

the basic layout should be ok but the precise location of the wall and door between pantry and fridge space will impact the distance between the end of the fridge wall and the "gap" to the island and make a difference to the length of the island depending on how far you want the kitchen to extend up to the sliding glass doors... but you could also consider moving the fridge and oven to the other end of the kitchen to allow a bigger island to be pushed closer to the pantry and make the kitchen less enclosed..so many options and look forward to seeing the results

I think there has been some confusion with your floorplan,

1 ) your first post shows 3 plans with the entrance from the pantry being flush with the kitchen wall.

2) Then your hand drawn sketch shows this door parallel to the edge of the cooktop.

Which is correct as it makes a big difference to the layout, and the new fridge position.

@siriuskey sorry i am not so good at drawing floor plans but what you got in your sketch are right matching to the original floor plans. Btw, do you think relocating the fridge and oven to the next wall between the window and the sliding door and removing the wall we added (where currently the fridge and the oven sit) worth the cost ( because that also would disturb the floor a lot)

I took into consideration your new Fridge pantry alcove when I designed your kitchen to get you the max island and still being well placed within the kitchen. If the island isn't attached to the fridge wall you would need to leave a 1m space between them which would reduce the 3m Island as I have shown, the dotted wall shows the length of your kitchen, and how the island fits into that space, you could extend the island further into the dining if you wanted, I can redraw that for you. As I said with both of your plans drawn differently Both OKL and myself had a differnt result

Thanks everyone for your help.

this looks excellent , congratulations!!

That looks fantastic. Really like the colours and finishes you have chosen. Looks really liveable and friendly for everyone to enjoy. And how wonderful does that island bench look parallel to the sink bench.

Do you find it is working for you?

Also thank you for providing the "after" pictures. Well done to you.

Wow. Can I have one of those!

Yes, the layout is very functional. I was not a fan of cooking but i love cooking in this kitchen. It’s a 3m island and I have 12 drawers on it. So much storage

Also i set a side two drawers for spices

Your kitchen looks beautiful, great job and enjoy cooking