Hmmm, I initially had same idea as bigreader about fridge placement where microwave shelves are, but I doubt there's ample width for a fridge there. Then there's issue with fridge door opening into same area as that door that we are wondering about. What size is your fridge? It sounds like you are considering placing the fridge on the carpeting with the back in the dining/living space. Is that correct? It's generally not a good idea to place a fridge on carpet in case of leakage and subsequent damage to the carpet. Do you own the apartment/unit? If so, this may give you more options. If you were able to remove the bench/cabinet to the right of your stove and the overhead cabinets there, that could be enough space for a fridge. But you would lose food preparation and storage space. As has been suggested, the wall opposite the stove could accomodate more overhead cupboards. It would be helpful to know what that door is for, the size of your fridge, and if you are able to do renovation to the apartment.

To Nicole K..OOOOOOH That sounds really classy! Why didn't anybody come up with that earlier on? I don't drink...but just for the decorator touch, if I had that fridge and that space, I'd get the calssiest alcohol shelving and fill it with the most elegant bottles available......suppose the real thing would cost a mint...so I'd hunt for the bottles and fill them with the appropriately coloured liquid...food colouring dye and water ought to do it. Maybe just one real bottle....my brandy for the upset tum. What a good idea!

What are the two fridges for? Who needs access to them? That will dictate what works best for you. The first thing I thought of was the same as Larkspur Lane Design. It can be useful to have one fridge outside the butlers pantry which is easily accessible for grabbing a quick drink or a snack. If placed at the outer edge of the kitchen other members of the household can easily help themselves without getting in the way of whoever is working in the kitchen. But you said "the question is about the main fridge as im happy for second to go inside butler". 'Main fridge' indicates that is where the main supplies for meal preparation are kept, so wouldn't that fridge go in the butlers pantry, and if not then what is the butlers pantry for? 'Second fridge' is unusual and while we can say what we might do if we had a second fridge, to give you advice we need to understand how two fridges are intended to work for your household. So the question comes back to what are your two fridges for and who needs access to them? That will dictate what works best for you. Editing to add, I see bigreader is getting at the same thing. "Think about the way you live." What works for one home doesn't necessarily work for another home. It's what works for you. If you can help us understand how you want your kitchen to work for the people who will be using it, then we can answer based on that.

I dont have exact measurements except for the kitchen it's around 3940mm long x 4870mm wide. The WIP and Laundry are behind the kitchen and that is the same length at 4870mm x 1510mm. The door in the WIP/Laundry is to the garage. The oven is either under the cooktop across across from the sink of could be a wall oven where the fridge is or on another wall. I'm trying to figure out layout of everything still kind of torn on whether to have an L-shaped or Broken L-shaped kitchen.