Raising our cottage & building under: floor plan ideas please
We have a renovated cottage in Brisbane which we are raising and building under. We're going to (mostly) keep the existing floor plan, raise it up and make the new downstairs area our kitchen, living, dining, laundry, small bath and study/spare bed.
Here's the existing floor plan:
with dimensions:
This will be raised up and changed to add a master + ensuite + walk in (nb where it says dining/living is incorrect, it will just be a small living space/couch). We're pretty happy with upstairs and won't be changing the structure much.
This is our proposed new floor plan for the downstairs:
Would love some advice on the following:
- the stairs kind of need to stay where they are to enter in right place upstairs but is there a better way of fitting in the main rooms we need downstairs (laundry, kitchen, living, dining, bath + spare).
- e.g. cut out the play room and make the living/dining space larger for a better layout
- concerned about lack of sunlight filtering into the kitchen (entry is north facing) so the laundry/play rooms will cut out the light coming from the front, some light will come through the living room window in the afternoon but the kitchen won't see much.
- is there a better way of arranging the bathroom (it's small but is more of a powder room/small bath as bedroom is just a spare)
- do we really need a sink in the island bench if there's a large sink in butler's? Or move sink to side bench?
Thanks so much for taking the time to give some advice, it's much appreciated. We've been working on this for years and putting it on hold until the time is right. Hopefully it will go ahead next year!
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Morgan Treacle
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10 days agolast modified: 10 days agoHi oklouise! The wall in bed 3 is angled from a previous renovation (already done before we purchased). I'm actually not sure why it is angled though. I'll dig out the plan with dimensions and post below.
Morgan Treacle
10 days agoMorgan Treacle
10 days agooklouise
10 days agoapproximate dimensions suggest a possible alternate location for the stairs that creates lots of other possibilities and unless there's some major structural or boundary reason for the angled wall this might the opportunity to correct that problem although it could be a location for placement of a feature wall, fireplace or TV in the family room
Morgan Treacle thanked oklouiseChris
9 days ago
moving the stair doesnt help the existing upstairs if your plan is to not change much. the living area would reduce from 3.5 to 2.5m width and would limit options unless you want to use this space as office/playroom. the existing door would have to be relocated to bed 1 and the green line is an existing beam which looks to be tight on the 12th stair down which is usually the minimum head height clearance.
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9 days agooklouise
9 days agolast modified: 9 days agojust realised that i accidentally posted two copies of downstairs plans...still may not work.. but always worth considering another option with different stairs
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