Help! Floor plan advice
Hi. I'm looking to renovate and extend our 60s brick home. I will engage a designer, but want to come prepared with a few ideas. This is the existing layout, windows in green, sliding doors from living and Bed 2:
Must haves are a third bedroom and a ensuite bathroom for the master bedroom. Nice to have is a second living area / kids room.
This is one layout I've developed, but I'm struggling to think outside the box:
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated and will really help when I'm meeting with designers down the track!
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Kate
2 years agoBed 3 might be better as rumpus as bigger than other rooms. Or try this getting wir for master, which I light on storage
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Comments (11)Hi Rozzi Klomp, I would not only increase the size of your kitchen, but I'd look at swapping your living and dining areas. The current layout looks to provide a very long and narrow living area (3 x 6m?). A great way to check how each 'space' works is to consider the furniture layout for the living and dining areas. This will highlight how each zone works individually, as well as how each responds/interacts with your views, the kitchen, and related circulation. Understanding how each space works individually, and together, will inform the shape and layout of your kitchen design. Considering this our suggestions are: Locate bench and cupboards along the wall backing onto garage (relocate laundry to garage 'store' area). This will provide you with additional storage and/bench space. It could accommodate the stove, wall oven, fridge etc. Increase the size of the island bench. This bench could be orientated to the view, or the dining area. This would depend on your preference for facing view or using the bench as 'gathering' space (cooking whilst preparing food and /or breakfast bar). Depending on the orientation of the central bench would it be better as an island or peninsular bench? Make sure you have adequate circulation within the kitchen (between benches/ joinery) and around the kitchen to ensure good circulation and function....See MoreFloor plan advice for newbies. Please help!
Comments (16)Hi Kieran, I've spent a fun Sunday playing around with this... thanks for the challenge! Jumping in to post it though, I think my ideas overlap with Siriuskey and Lucia. Isn't it funny how similar solutions can be arrived at independently! Key points: - As far as possible, I've tried to stick with the existing walls. - Since Bed 2 & Bed 3 are quite small already, even though I've encroached into each to achieve separate entries, the impact is minimal, particularly for Bed 3. - I've used pocket doors to both ends of the WIR and to the store room for optimal functionality. - I've depicted Caroma Urbane compact toilet suites with wall concealed cisterns because they save a bit of space and both toilets can use that extra space in that direction. - It's a very stageable design. You may for instance decide to build the ensuite/WIR and reconfigure the bed 2/3 entries without doing any of the kitchen changes. Or you may decide to save the expense and not move the main WC into the existing store, though it does add a fair area to the living space (I've used the exact existing footprint of the store to save cost and demolition pain which is workable with the Caroma Urbane, but alternatively you could demolish and rebuild the wall behind the pan for a more spacious loo). - The Family/Dining area ends up being fairly generous and very flexible. I've added a door to the end of the corridor to screen the loo a bit better from the dining area and for noise separation for the study, but you may prefer to leave this off. - I've not mucked around with your windows, figuring the important thing was to get the concept down for you, except in the ensuite. Really good idea there to have a central mirror with a narrow window to each side to throw light on your face at the mirror. Has the side benefit of a symmetrical effect which is always good aesthetically. - I've also flipped the main bathroom door to relate better to Bed 2/Bed 3, though not strictly necessary. - I originally used the Bed 1 robe space as a big walk-in-pantry, but it didn't relate particularly well to the kitchen and it also left no provision for general storage. Rather than take up a lot of valuable kitchen space with a pantry which would reduce the length of the peninsula breakfast bar (not ideal), I came up with the idea of shallow shelves with a roller shutter which I think you'll find give you an amazing amount of readily accessible storage. I'd like to think it would be possible to source a horizonal roller shutter that would coil back into the dead space at the back of the fridge, but perhaps better to just go with a vertical shutter and avoid the headache!...See MoreHelp! We need floor plan advice for our family home
Comments (33)Appreciate the thoughts and this may be a solid option elsewhere in the country but in my circumstances I don't plan to be moving from this property any time before the kids are 18. It is located in Sydney's inner west, and in a specific high school catchment I plan to take advantage of when the kids are older. Stamp duty to buy the property was close to $100k and if moving out even in ten years to a larger property; that averages $10k a year spent on stamp duty. I know 115m2 internal is tight, as is the fixed layout due to existing bedroom walls, ceiling heights, wet areas, and the like - but there has to be a way to make this work... I have read that 4 bedroom apartments should be 102m2 or bigger. I am willing to make compromises where possible but I really want to create that extra separate room "Multi-purpose room" which can double as a study/work area/kids play area/media room/ad-hoc sleeping accommodation". Paul Di Stefano: I don't think these changes essentially equate to 'rearranging a sock drawer' - this is my PPOR so I am not too concerned what other buyers want or resale value if I plan to hold the property for 10-20 years +... (any trends we design for now may well be outdated by then anyway). Many buyers highly value indoor-outdoor integration. By moving the kitchen to centre, it opens up the rear and creates indoor living->outdoor living link. If I get IKEA flatpack kitchen and DIY as much as possible - have a friend reroute the water/drainage/+his licenced electrical friend...hopefully this work would cost sub-$20k. Adding the sliding door to rear is $2.5k. Ensuite, bathroom and laundry I believe I can fitout for $10-15k all up- let's say 15k (again, tiling, raise flooring, showers/fixtures/flat pack laudnry cabinetry install all done in-house without tradies). The only thing I really need professionals for is to move the gas line in kitchen, BIR installs, stone benchtop, and maybe a few adhoc wall demo/construction/doorway moving - lets call that 10k. All up ballpark that is 47.5k? Sirius- If I go with your style plan then I lose the potential 4th bed space and have no where for relatives to stay, babysitter, nanny; etc :( Maybe it is a possibility that the main living space be used for lounge room and kitchen, we can always put dining table in the Multi-purpose room, then when that room is needed for sleeping accommodation, the dining table be moved to the side and kids can eat dinner on island bench bar; lounge or outside table... ? those doors to each side of the fireplace as you suggest - this space is very cramped outside (2.45m width) and potentially would be used to store trailer or garden shed, there is an old terrace built on zero-boundary there and they have a DA to go 2 storeys; which will shadow the whole area. This is why I planned to make the rear south corner a raised deck and try to channel house activity leading out the existing glass french door to that deck, or the rear sliding door. See photo-(my house is on the left, terrace zero boundary on right, and front on is a wooden dividing fence which on the opposite side is the driveway/1 car park and front street....See MoreFloor plan help and advice please
Comments (2)Hey OKlouise...unfortunately we are not sure the the approximate dimensions as yet but since posting this I have spoke with our designer and she is making some big changers re the flow of the house. Once the new plans are back I will re post with all the above info. Thanks for taking the time thus far....See More
oklouise
2 years agoB Tilly
2 years agoYes - living room and bed 3 are extensions to the original home, both on concrete slab. The front of the house is wooden floors on piles. Block is 18m wide by 45m long, house is on the elevated back half of block. I don't really want to build out front as I have plans for an outdoor area there (garage / pool / decking / lawn). Double brick house with single brick internal walls, tile roof. We will replace the entire roof with colorbond as it's at the end of it's life. We can go about 5m back from the living room before we hit a retaining wall so can't build all the way to the back boundary. Side boundaries are only a couple of meters away each.
oklouise
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agobefore making any realistic suggestions we need to understand the existing spaces but your plan shows bed 2 and 3 as projecting out further than bed 1 but the roof doesn't show a corresponding change of shape?...assuming that the roof is correct you need to add dimensions for width of kitchen, laundry, toilet, bathroom and width of original bed 3 and can you please show locations of windows and external doors and what is space beyond the existing living? ... pending confirmation of details my suggestions would be to build new kids bedrooms and bathroom at the back with part of bed 3 as the rumpus, have a master suite at the front with part of bed 3 as wiw and original bathroom as ens and powder room and rearrange the old laundry or add a new extra laundry with the new kids rooms and use original laundry for a pantry...the biggest challenge will be the new roof but maybe the extension could have a skillion roof tucked under the original eaves but that depends on available ceiling heights
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2 years agooklouise
2 years agoreplacing the whole roof shape is a significant cost and, having replaced a similar roof, you will find that it can raise the height of the highest party of the roof and creates an opportunity for a loft!! ...the new roof would probably need to look like this and could have stairs in the rumpus without losing space from any other room
Kate
2 years agoB Tilly
2 years agooklouise
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agonew dimensions add other options for the family bathroom, ens and an alternate laundry allows for a pantry in the kitchen but also creates extra challenges for a new roof
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