please add all the missing room sizes, where is north and what is the maximum floor space allowed for your block?

Please supply all measurements for rooms to give more information. But just as first comments. In the kitchen space, the WIP is basically an awkward corner cupboard. Have a wall of pantry cupboards in the kitchen space. You have three living areas in a compact home, are they all necessary/need to be that size. The garage is showing it is 5630mm wide. Your door won’t open into the garage from the laundry, if a car is parked there. The meals area is not really wide enough for comfortable movement around a dining table. You have two metre + setbacks around the home, are these the regulations or have you just assumed the set backs?

Put a basin in the upstairs toilet room.

@oklouise and @dreamer attached layout with missing measurements. I have looking to build a maximum of 23sq (213 sqm) on a land size which is 256 sqm.

As for the setbacks - yes these are the regulations.

I agree on the comments around the kitchen space/area - really struggling to come up with an ideal combination. Any suggestions ?

The other challenge is the master ensure on first floor - in two minds whether to get rid of the WIR and replace it with ENS (will only fit single vanity), open up the room by freeing up the space currently marked by ENS. Instead of WIR , add a three sliding door rob on one side of the room?

Walk in storage wastes precious space. Laundry needs to be flipped to access full store under stair. Garage is fine, standard dim in vic.
Cab you add the dimensions for master ensuite- and room dimensions wall to wall, forgetting robes

Good to see on second posted plans you have changed swing of laundry door.

This very rough, not to scale suggestion for the upper storey. Placing the two minor bedrooms and bathroom together on the left of stairs, and the master bedroom with WIR and ensuite on the right.

This very rough not to scale suggestion for the kitchen meals area. Delete the peninsula and extend cabinets across the complete wall for a more useful pantry. Install an island, which will give more space for meals area.

@Kate update the floor plan - is this what you mean by flipping the staircase to utilise the store ? I wonder if the laundry plus linen can go under the staircase to widen the family area or am i pushing it? Don't mind getting rid of the store if so.

dimension have been updated as well.

@dreamer updated the kitchen area as below. got rid of the awkward WIP , opened up the island from both ends and managed to add the WIP. Even added the photos - source of inspiration. What do you think ?

@dreamer thank you for suggesting the changes on first floor however preference is to keep the master where it is - gives a bit of privacy by not having recreation area right outside of it?

Challenge is whether to get rid of the WIR and replace it with ENS (will only fit single vanity), open up the room by freeing up the space currently marked by ENS. Instead of WIR , add a three sliding door rob on one side of the room(entrance wall side).

Also, keen to get everyone's view whether it will be possible to add the laundry and linen under one side of the staircase on ground floor with view to widen the family area.

thank you

I think Kate meant to flip the LAUNDRY lay out, so you can access the void space under the stairs. We have done this with out stairwell and can access the void from garage and inside, therefore the full underneath of stairs are accessible.

My floor plan of stairwell for context to above photos.

you are pushing expectations because all the rooms need to have enough room for scale sized furniture and circulation space and your plan doesn't have the stairs lined up on both floors...starting with the setbacks and allowing for wall thickness and maximum 213 sq m my suggestions include...reconsider dual windows on the front facade, omit the alcove near the front door, reverse the door opening to create some privacy at entry, lose direct access from guest room to bathroom, there's not enough head room to push the whole laundry under the stairs (but add side access under the stairs allows access to low storage from laundry side as well as separate tall shallow storage under the stairs accessed from hall...the family room is already suitable for basic sitting area and the laundry wall allows space for bookshelves and TV and that wall space would be lost without the separate laundry ... lose the idea of a walk in pantry and fixed island that needs far more space and use a wall of base and wall cabinets for pantry and study nook and a central moveable island (check Ikea and similar for big kitchen trolleys) would allow enough space for an extendable dining table with proper chairs instead of island stool and no dining table....UPSTAIRS with the stairs properly aligned with downstairs allows more space for a WIW and generous ens with double vanity, comfortable shared bathroom and bedrooms with biw and a sitting room with study area but some minor variations may be needed depending on direction of north to minimize overheating from afternoon sun

@dreamer made the changes to first floor as per your earlier suggestions - is this what you are expecting? The dimensions mentioned in the layout are now most likely incorrect and architect will have to re-draw it.

Also, made changes to the ground floor in the laundry - i assume this is what you and Kate meant?

@oklouise - thank you for the feedback , will definitely take onboard and appreciate you drawing up the plans.

Really liked the suggested layout on first layout however i am not sure how will i be able to fit the master en suite in the marked area with the space available- its assuming 1.8M width that i don't have unless i am missing something obvious here?

As oklouise has said, your stairs don’t line up with bottom to top floor. Your family area is 4000mm to laundry wall then the stairs. Upstairs you have master is 4000mm then the stairs. Therefore your drawings are not correct by the width of laundry.

the reason i have enlarged the ens in that location is because your original plans appear to have the stairs in the wrong position and i have also rotated the master bedroom to make better use of available space

Okl plan is awesome as usual

@oklouise -hi again, just wondering how have you managed to get a 3900 x 4300 family area on the ground floor because the draftee has sent a revised layout (attached) and he is saying that only 3350 x 4510 is possible ?

depends on sizes allowed for hallway and kitchen and your draftee will have the correct dimensions that can't be achieve with my vintage CAD program

Try and have a flat landing on stairs

At 3350mm that is a very narrow space for family. And it is a thoroughfare to a sliding door for outside. Think about your furniture placement. Where would you put your furniture, tv, etc. Mark out this size room with tape on the floor, in your current home. Is it workable? Can the sliding door be placed at the other window area, and the current sliding door become a highlight window for better furniture placement in such a small area.

Draftee has specified stairs that are 40 wider in total (20cm for each flight) than oklouise. This accounts for the majority of the difference.

The stairs in my house area only as wide as oklouise specified; they are a bit narrow, but the house your planning is small.

Otherwise the draftees plans have the family room about 15cm smaller each way than oklouise plan. This is probably due to differences in specified external wall thickness.

Upstairs steal space from hall to add basin in toilet. Or select a toilet with integrated sink for times when bathroom is occupied

And I’ll add bigger plan would be to extend out back to add second bath in a new master using bed 3 and laundry

I'am coming in late with this but I agree with CP that you have a lot of smaller rooms to accommodate your list.

There are too many living spaces which reduces the size of the bedrooms.

By changing things around making the front room Guest/living, will make for a much larger family space. I have added a frosted highlight window to allow light into the laundry.

This may appeal to you and your family cheers

@Kate what do you mean by flat landing on stairs? Any photos for me to have an idea ?

@oklouise@dreamer@jess892222 3350mm for a family area is defintely feels narrow , i am hoping i can at least have a 4000mm. Having a bit of deeper look and comparing the oklouise's layout with what my draftee has done - it appears the major difference is the wider size in laundary and stairs in the one from draftee.

What is the minumum width required for a standard laundary and stairs ?

@siriuskey thank you for your views and i do agree that i am trying to fit in a lot of options in a small size house. i feel most of the items are sorted in my layout except for the family area on ground floor which i am somehow trying to adjust to 4000mm+.

The primary requirement is 4bdr and i am not sure about having a bath on the entrance which will also mean no window at the front :-|

A long laundry needs depth of cabinets/washing machine plus door, doors 820 plus trim cabinets 600 Machine 800, I like 1800.

Return stairs 2 x width of treads ,2m plus as show

OKL and my floorplan show flat connecting landing between stair sections, mine is 1m x 2125 I could extend the second section to allow the stairs bit more depth. (I think your Draftee has included some curved stairs in the second section)

Powder rooms are often at the front door for convenience. I have a highlight window facing the garage but you could have it on the front facade which can work what style of house are wanting

4 Bedrooms are a lot for the house size but the Multi function living ,Media, guest room would cover that, plus making the 3 bedrooms upstairs larger takes away the need for an extra rooms as the bedrooms serve this need for the individuals

it's difficult to be specific about the draftees plans without all the dimensions as i wrongly assumed that the draftee would minimise the width of the laundry and stairwell sizes to maximize other areas but size of stairwell has and impact on upstairs and down so please post larger sections of both levels of the latest draftee plans showing all the measurements along the sides

Regarding the stair well landing. Your first plan posted looks like the stairwell had one step on the landing. Oklouise and siriuskey have shown plans with a flat landing on stairwell. Your draftee has drawn plans with diagonal stairs on the turn of stairs. (Therefore no “landing” the steps just continue around to next level) Below are images of a flat landing and diagonal stair turn. It depends on what the length of the stairwell is, to accommodate the amount of stairs required, making sure the steps are to Australian standards. If you note oklouise plan of stairs and your first drawing posted the stairwell length is 3200mm and 3000mm respectively, however the draftee plans look as though they are only 2800mm?

Stairs can be made to fit into different spaces by adjusting the rise and depth of step, mine is shown as 3m which could be a bit shallow but can be adjusted by adding more steps to the second section, these details can be confirmed if the client likes what they are being shown as a suggested floorplan.

I should mention that by making the bedrooms bigger QB's will fit as shown, kids grow and don't readily leave home,

I have done a basic 3D of the front exterior showing how a PWR window would look

This with a better PWR layout with the shower being behind a wall so the PWR is more visually pleasing when looking in from the hallway and only seeing the vanity.

I have expanded the front room and changed the kitchen to include a walk in food and appliance storage on 300 deep shelves