I wouldn’t do a return. Unless it is just an open shelf to avoid closing in the space, you could include a pull out bench top in that area. You could put an open bench on wheels and have it next to the sliding doors.

I like the extra pantry space in the latest render.

thanks - still some details to refine to break up the wall of wood...

Adjust the panel at end of fridge - may be a wall for switches

And review the white on white...

the boss has suggested mint green

Not the white

reverting back to a simple pallette of oak, S/S and matt white

need to review handles and wood veneer options to make it a bit more interesting

looked at a greay warm stone option

Handles

Hi res render to to clarify the design...Stainless steel brushed surface not right

I dint like the fully enclosed space on right

JBD, I would make sure you install pocket doors on the enclosed appliance area. To have hinged doors would be troublesome and annoying. Pocket doors fold and disappear. You can keep them out of the way when using appliance area. Hinged doors would be open and in the way of a functional kitchen.

I think you need to spend more time on the actual function of kitchen, instead of the aesthetics.

It is a very good change to have an open area in corner bench top, left of stove top. Otherwise it would be a very difficult corner cupboard to access.

Thanks - will work on functionality to sort work zones.

Something like this from hafele?

@Kate

better corner solution?

enough access for coffee machine area and recessed cupboard

Yes, the Hafele example photo is a very good example for your space.

opened up corner with head space for coffee and pocket doors to breakfast zone

white and S/s

Looks very functional and has the elements you are wanting aesthetically.

Time to test more colour/material options.

Can anyone recommend a good detailing software?

Have been looking at Blum, hafee and go cabinet

Some practical things - where does the bin/recycling/compost go, don’t forget power pints go and your lighting needs changing. When you get to the quote stage you’ll need to specify that the cabinetry within the appliance cupboard and the display cupboard match the exterior as that won’t be standard. Are the tiles shown just for the renders (a vertical subway seems a cop out)? I like the sage green with the wood tones. Are you using actual samples of products? If not, most websites eg polytechnic will provide samples at low or no cost.

Thanks

need ro think about splash back - yes, tiles are dull :)

may be worktop and splashback will be same material.

will work with these:

https://www.polytec.com.au/colour/oasis/

https://www.polytec.com.au/colour/boston-oak/

https://www.smartstone.com.au/stone-benchtops/bellini-bianco

Bins are to right of sink.

plugs and switches to be added + task lighting

@bigreader

some updates with polytec swatches and electrical

Your breakfast/appliance cupboard needs power. Are you planning a microwave?

And you could consider power to the drawers in the display cupboard for a charging station.

Some colour variations

polytec blonde oak and verdelho white/green

not quite right?

some contrast...

What distance to you have between fridge and island? And at between side brr we BChigh snd iff St land. Duffest 1.2 and 1m respectively

Looks better without the wall.

Kate ??

JBD, are you happy with the change of storage options with having the island and not a wall of storage? The layout Does look better, an open room now. Do you still have a separate space for quiet time, away from the open plan?

What is the depth of the island on your plan? 600mm or 900mm. I suggest making a 900mm island. 600mm cabinets, 300mm seating overhang. Increase the island 300mm into kitchen. This makes walking space between window cabinets and island approx 1490mm. Which is a better, workable distance, than 1790mm. If you don’t want a seating overhang….still move the island 300mm into kitchen proper.

These are the dimensions I am working to

And more images to help clarify design
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1945mm between island and fridge is not a practical distance. Ideally it should be 1300mm. When taking fruit and veges etc out of fridge and pantry items for meal prep, where will you put them? Across to the island or next to the sink on the far side. Think about how you or your family work in the kitchen.
You have enough space to move island into kitchen proper.

Your original design had the kitchen at 2990mm wide. Now you are showing 3445mm wide?? (Window to outer side of island)

Working to structural beam. Details to be finalised engineer with engineering

Engineer to review

Another suggestion would be to have a square island. Allowing 1300mm walking space around the island. Sketch using current measurements.

Thanks - I’ve been informed that a sofa is to go in that zone now

Definitely move island in to make the living space bigger. Island can be movable to if you want, Although I like have]ing PowerPoint on mu]y island

Something like this then, using your original 2990mm measurements.

Bit tight to do 1300 with table

If you reduce the island to 2000mm in length. This will give you 1300mm between stove wall and island. And plenty of room on the table side of area.

1300mm between stove and island would be better than 900mm. My space is 1300mm and with oven door open it leaves about 880mm walking, standing space between open door and island. With 900mm and depending what oven type you have, the door may block the corner of your island for safe circulation around the kitchen.

But if you don’t use your oven much, then it won’t matter.

My stove is in similar position in relation to island. Have 1000m

Great tip - have updated this!

Perfect

If you’re not having power points in the bench I can recommend having the island of castors. Up to my second time with that arrangement. It would work for you - in high traffic times for the kitchen give the kitchen occupants more space, and vice versa for the lounge.