Help squeezing powder room into floor plan
We are extending out our back wall to make room for a bigger kitchen. This will also create space for a small dining table. We will be using the existing patio roof. We would like a powder room if possible as there is no toilet on this level. The current location on the plan is really the only possible location I can think of and we are building under an existing eave so that the powder room doesn't encroach too far on the living space. There is an alcove as I didn't want the powder room door to open onto the living space, We taped out the placement today and we realised it appears to be a box jutting out in to the living space. Any thoughts or ideas on how to make this sit better would be really appreciated.
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Need help with my new floor plan (this time with the plans attached)
Comments (10)Hi Sophie, I immediately agree with the suggestion to remove the angled/chamfered wall to the bedroom entry and create a small lobby, although a good alternative is to consider a straight-run stair and adding a corridor wall to create a 'private' zone - then toilet can stay where it is, tucked in under stair, and privacy (and acoustic/smell separation to the toilet) is created for living and master bedroom. This might mean widening the kitchen room by 100mm or so (noting some reductions mentioned below) and mirroring the bathroom/rumpus arrangement upstairs - it does create a bit more circulation but adds a lovely sense of space when don't have your main circulation through the middle of a room. The laundry pantry is not the usual arrangement - and the distance needed to travel to the linen cupboard is excessive. I would definitely flip the arrangement of laundry /pantry and try to turn the linen into some kind of study nook off the new corridor - and get rid of the tiny desk near the front door!! Imagine that lovely living space with light coming in from the porch which is facing north. That brings up the final comment that north is where the garage is and the main kitchen is therefore south-east facing, this is fine for morning but it is darker for the afternoons. This is a bit harder to change, but the kitchen could be reworked to turn through 90 degrees to face the garden but extend across to the west facade to allow afternoon light in. The nook could be deleted (which blocks afternoon light to deck) and the deck could extend or wrap around the corner for afternoon light. A little corner of deck in the afternoon sun you would never regret! Your draftie designer would need to look at this in detail as the west external wall would might need to shift inwards and south widen into garden, but if afternoon light is important to you then I would encourage you to consider this change too....See MoreDesign Help please! Laundry and powder room
Comments (20)If the rumpus is going to be used as a family day care room, then I think the powder room should be accessible from there. This will make it so much easier for one person to supervise the kids in the room as well as the one who is heading off to the toilet. Perhaps you also need a wet area in there for cleaing up after messy activities. I know someone with a similar family day care set up, and they have toilet and laundry attached to the back of the garage/daycare space. And then the kitchen is adjacent, this makes life a lot easier for the sole person in charge of the kids....See MorePlease help me with floor plan design for a small Australian home
Comments (20)OP, OKL's plan is better from an energy efficiency point of view than your plan (your plan wastes the northern aspect with bathrooms). But DON'T just flip OKL's plan, as the orientation would then be all wrong! It's important to get the orientation right, this will greatly effect the comfort of your home & your heating/cooling requirements (& hence your bills). Read this. It's all very useful, but maybe focus on the section about orientation first. http://yourhome.gov.au/passive-design Below are some generalisations. As has been requested, it would be nice to know your general location, as climates vary across our big country, so building requirements change. But generally, you want your living areas (& a large proportion of your glazing facing north). If possible, have a smaller portion of your glazing facing south & east, for cross ventilation, & try to eliminate western glazing. Bedrooms to the south & east (if they won't also fit in the north), & rarely used rooms, like garages, bathrooms & laundries to the west. Your verandah is south facing, good, as it won't shade your home in winter. Hopefully you have north facing eaves & they aren't too large. If they are the right size you'll get sun through your northern windows in winter, but the eaves will shade the house in summer, when the sun is higher in the sky. So can you knock out windows & doors wherever you want? Would be good to know where they are currently, the size of the verandah, the block dimensions & any other structures which will influence shading & privacy. I'd also be looking at some tiny house blogs/websites. 72sqm isn't tiny, but you really want an efficient house that works well, & you'll find some ingenious storage solutions that are used in tiny houses. Well designed built in storage is definitely very important in a small home. Can't see if it all fits now, while using the app on my phone. But I'd aim for something like this. The kitchen in the NE corner, running down the eastern wall (so you get good morning sun). An island bench for dining, separating the living area on the northern wall. Master in the NW corner, with the ensuite on the western wall (if it fits - important not to have the master bedroom window facing west). Minor bedrooms (& windows) on the south wall. Main bathroom or powder room somewhere on the southern wall, in the SW corner would be nice if it fits there. No idea is that all fits, just some ideas. If you're not fussed about an easy facing kitchen, you could flip this all, & have the kitchen in the NW corner, & the master in the NE corner. If you're taking off external or internal cladding, this is a good time to insulate you're walls. Also up insulation levels in the roof cavity of they're inadequate. It will greatly effect comfort, is quite cheap & the walls are very hard to do at other times. Edit: as I got the verandah location wrong, then added to my post....See Morehelp _ where to place powder room at terraced house
Comments (12)Don't try to bypass the approvals process as it will come back to bite you on the bum when it comes to selling your home. Nobody wants to buy real esate that has illegal construction so it will actually devlaue your home. The requirements for approvals vary from state to state, and sometimes even council to council. However with the type of boundary construction, and the length of it will probably require DA approval in most areas of Australia. Best to have a friendly, informal chat with one of the planners at council who should be able to advise you in the requirements for your locality. Or enage a local architect/designer who is familiar with terrace house renovations, who will handle the design, documentation and permit applications for you. The photo supplied by Siriuskey with the glazed roof over the kitchen was created by a design professional. Best of luck, Dr Retro of Dr Retro House Calls...See More- 7 years ago
thanks Dr Retro, that option is something to consider.
oklouise I have attached a photo of the exterior where the powder room is planned to go. You can see the wider eaves overhang is where the ceiling of the powder room would be. We can not extend the roofline here without it being a tack on. The hot water system is already here to so it makes financial sense to keep it in the vicinity. The plan shows all of the downstairs area. It is a split level home - head up stairs for bedrooms and downstairs for playroom, study etc.
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Hi Siriuskey. This is the existing floor plan. The distance between the wall the stairs are on and the partitioning wall between living and family is 1585mm.
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Just a rough idea for your powder room which also includes sliding doors(Barn doors) to close off the living , dining & kitchen from the entrance, which I think would be important now that you are enlarging the kitchen family cheers
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we need to know the internal room sizes of the dining, family and living room and what you plan to use the rooms for...will the old dining room still need space for a dining table, will the family room have a lounge and a dining area?...best way to plan the spaces is to plan furniture to suit and my suggestions based on approximate sizes takes space out of the family room for the powder room and small pantry and leaves the HWS and surrounding walls in the original location
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Without actual room sizes I will just sketch what I think is possible keeping the family room as large as possible as this is where all the action will take place
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without dimensions it's difficult to be accurate but keeping the dining table in the old dining room would allow space for an extra lounge in the family rooom depends on how many you need to seat together at any one time
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Hi Lumpets, I had been looking at ideas for your powder room which was difficult without some of the measurements but this what I thought would work best by using some of the entrance space., I feel it would be a mistake not to include a WC on the main floor.
You also mentioned having lovely views from the living room so the possibility of large sliders between it and the family could be amazing. good luck with your reno's
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I just want you to have a few options, and this another with the fridge and pantry built in making it a galley kitchen
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