I like your plans

Not sure why you would only have 1m space, what width and depth do the machines require. As macyjean suggested, because of their size they would be better stacked? (not in front o the window)The problem I have found with having a front loader is that there's no soaking available, maybe yours does, if not even more reason you should have a sink for that purpose and future sale

I'am also not a fan of shared laundry and pantries, I would try to keep some definition

We've tried every layout you've suggested siriuskey even what macyjean suggested. The machines can't stack. The depth of bench is the issue and corners. and cabinet doors. Plus I'm only 5ft so won't be as easy for me to access if they were stack. The machines are 600x645 deep. I don't really soak, I use the delicate cycle. If I do need to ( once in a blue moon) I use the bath tub for sheets or a bucket. We have an outdoor dining space which we use quite a lot and access is through the laundry at the moment. We want to have the access through the kitchen instead and just passing the laundry/Butler's pantry. It will be more efficient for straight to the kitchen sink with new plan rather than going into the laundry via two doors, then going around pass entrance foyer pass dining before you get to kitchen bit difficult when you're setting up or cleaning up and things in your hand. We may just get a provision for a sink.

I just lost my comment attached to this floorplan so will attempt it separately.

Without all dimensions (agents plans are not always correct) I suggest looking at using some of that wasted Foyer space to add a pantry within the kitchen (I understand it is a two story building but this can be worked with) Add 300 deep cabinets to long side of island and add situp at end of the island, you need approx 60 per person so maybe just one stool with another next to the fridge

Stack washer dryer as macyjean suggested being so big they would fit better allowing for a straight 1200 corner broom laundry storage (the corner pantry shown in your floorplan use up too much floor space and I think look very old. But then it's your laundry

Thank you siriuskey, we can certainly look at this and consider the plan possibility and also cost associated. I do like using the foyer space as it's just a wasted space.

I missed your last post, 645 deep washer and dryer were you planning to do 645 deep benchtop, all of this will make it hard for you to reach any wall storage being 5ft?

Haha. Everything is hard to reach for me. We're only doing 600 the machines will stick out a bit.

This without stacking the dryer washer with 1200 bench top space

sink bench top approx 1600, so around 2,8m total bench top available

This layout siriuskey is pretty good. I like the . Will need to get carpenter to look at it. Thank you. Hopefully it won't cost a lot to get done.

You mentioned having an outdoor kitchen, is it on the other side of the kitchen sink. Outside of it

It's right outside yes, just on the other side of that window and outside the door is an outdoor kitchen with sink, also there's powder room sink and kitchen sink so lots of sink around it :)

Any pictures of the outdoor kitchen you can share

Sink is just under window we reversed the plumbing from laundry to outside sink instead.

That's a really nice area. Is the laundry door the only access though?

Thank you macyjean. this was our first DIY project. Also why we want to open up the kitchen and laundry so it's easier access to this outdoor area d a nicer one at that. At least I can keep things tucked away neatly in the new laundry pantry :) hide the mess.

You did the work yourselves? Great job!

So you're keeping the swinging door, not wanting to replace with a slider? Although of course a wider door means reducing valuable wall space.

Nina I agree with macyjean, I actually started working on a new plan removing the kitchen sink and making that a sliding door out to your lovely outdoor area but thought that perhaps it would make too much change for you, what do you think, would it be allowed

Siriuskey I would love a sliding door and that was my first ever plan. But it just all adds up we'd have to re plumb and move the sink, meaning cut through concrete slab and re slab. If our house was bigger and it's the forever home definately but we can't justify the spend. We just won't get a good return on the investment as it's a town house plus I'll lose a lot of wall space for cabinets.

Macyjean yes hubby and I did it together. Ripped off the whole backyard started from scratch like we're doing with the kitchen :)

Hi Nina, my thought was to move your sink to the LH side with the cooktop so plumbing will be easy. You could save money by maintaining the laundry as it is I will try and show that to you in a rough floorplan for you both to consider. You both appear to be clever with reno's so that is a big plus

Oh that's great siriuskey. Any suggestions always welcome and I really appreciate it. Something we have not thought of. I'm really grateful.

I’d be tempted to change access

That's interesting Kate. 2 access point from entry to by pass the open laundry and one from the kitchen. Hmmmm worth consideration as well.

I have basically turned your kitchen into a galley kitchen with sliding doors giving you direct access to your lovely outdoor area, these doors will also open up your whole living dining kitchen to extra light and feel more spacious

Keeping the laundry separate and maintaining current doors will reduce costs, you can bring the laundry down stairs and straight into the laundry and close the door to cover any laundry mess, can you add a laundry chute from upstairs.

I have given you a 2900 x 900 island with second small sink. a 900 island will only leave 900 width on the cooking zone side and 800 on the wall side. If you feel this is too tight for you at 5ft?, you could do a 600 island and use that extra 300 for floor space

as kate suggested there is a lot of wasted space in the entry but my idea would be to steal space off the foyer for a separate pantry and that makes more space in both the laundry and dining area and you keep the original laundry sink with space for an under bench washer and dryer and more laundry storage (the old laundry door makes for dual access to storage but my island is 90cm x 1800 to allow more walking space

Sorry Nina I was working on the kitchen only being 3300 wide instead of the 3600, so we now have 1100 between the cooker and island and 100 from island to wall with the fridge being setback into the foyer space I have also extended the kitchen to 3600.

@siriuskey I love the idea and design. Yesterday hubby and I really pondered. Sadly, it won't work. We measured the wall where fridge is and where we're moving sink and DW it's only 3270 with fridge, cooker, sink and DW it's not going to fit. We also factored in Kate and oklouise suggestions taking from the foyer and it's a bit of work and it made the entry looked like there's a box s you're coming in and the cost of moving, building walls. It's a lot of work. The space is only 750x1650. We do appreciate all the suggestions and loving the thought of new ways to maximise. Got quotes for cabinets and that alone is starting from $22k-$29k :(

We will have to come up with some more ideas, what about putting the fridge in the laundry where you where wanting the washer dryer moved to, and keeping them where they are? Another thought you could add a Bi Fold window where you currently have the sink, which could have a sit up bench on the outside wall

I knew that wall was shorter but I tried to steal a bit more length from the dining area?

If you did push the fridge or cupboard back into the foyer it would be built full height which wouldn't look like a box?

Just want to keep you all posted.

At siriuskey the budget after getting quotes is very limited. The kitchen as per original plan is estimated at $35k at the moment with cabinets coming in half of that. Any more alterations or additions is out of our budget. I would love bi fold doors or the doors that push up for kitchen window but budget won't allow. Sadly :(

This is the cabinet quote coming in at $16k plus GST. (sydney west KD)

Carcass – 16mm White HMR PB with ABS Edging

Doors & Panels – 18mm 2-Pac Painted shaker profile cabinets.

Blum hardware

1 x pull out spice rack,
1 x tall corner walk in pantry,
1 x on top of bench appliance cabinet with double doors and 3 shelves
1 x pull out double bin with hidden drawer,
1 x microwave box
5 X drawers soft close.full open
1 x pullout shelves cabinets
2 X floor corner cabinets,
1 x sink cabinet for Butler's sink
1 x corner wall cabinet,
4 X wall cabinets
1 x fridge cabinet
2 x 1285 open shelves 300-400mm deep
Kickboards 100mm.
Bulkheads 100mm.

Install

10yr warranty

Quote does not include benchtop, nor handles. We are getting this seperate.

My questions,

1. Anyone have experience with 18mm vs 21mm MDF shaker doors?

Hubby is worried 18mm in shaker profile is really a 15mm because there's not much in the middle due to recess which may cause it to warp and be less durable. We're thinking of 21mm shaker for durability but it's going to be heavy do we'd need bigger, stronger hinges. Any advice would be great. In terms of cost it's $1.5k in the difference to go 21mm.

2. Thoughts on quoted price for cabinets would be immensely appreciated. Is this good price?

Thanks everyone.

Have you had a quote with a plain profile door to see what difference it would make How many quotes did you get. Your quote is for both a kitchen and laundry, minus appliances?

As you seem to be above your budget, look at alternatives to the expensive extras that you have been quoted.

why do you need the following:

1 x pull out spice rack

A single drawer with a 18cm front, 10cm height internal, would do the same job. You get the spice organiser from home stores.

1 x Tall corner walk in pantry

Straight cabinets are more practical and are more cost effective. an update on your quoted floor plan would be handy to visualise your quotes.

1 x Pull out double bin with hidden drawer

A simple bin would be more cost effective. You may be surprised how much these pull out bins are. especially since your going with Blum hardware, I know that the Hafele brand are around $700 dollars for this set up. not sure how much the Blum range is.

You could check out these suppliers they are great to deal with I have left it on the waste bins you can search for anything in the RH top corner

https://elraco.com.au/?product_cat=waste-systems

Siriuskey, I didn't get a quote for plain profile. The quote for cabinets is for kitchen and laundry, no stone and no handles varied so much and they were all similar materials. I got around 10 quotes I think. The highest was $29k from 3 KDs 3 mid $23k-$25k and a couple in high teens $17k-$18. One $14k and the $16k. All quotes ex GST. The main difference was hardware Hettich with some and Blum others. All MDF and high moisture board.

Dreamer, I'm going to splash on cabinets and skimp on other things. Like splashback. I was going for glass $1600 but now doing tiles $300. Won't be getting a new fridge or dishwasher as they are still good. Not going for pendant light just plain down lights.

TBH, I'm just amazed at how expensive a kitchen reno has gotten and how much of a difference in pricing KDs are doing.

It's really worth to do research especially with the industry not being regulated. I've been asking for licence and warranty from all KDs. It's a lot of money to be putting down and one would hope it'll be a kitchen that will last 10+ years. It's scary the stories I've read.

Siriuskey, that supplier is perfect! I'll definitely look into that and save on $$$ thanks a mill!

An excellent contact Siriusky for hardware and accessories.

@Nina D'Cruz You said you want to splash on the cabinets. But really, a bin is a bin. A pull out spice rack is not a necessity.

I would be purchasing the under $100 one as per Siriusky suggestion.

Don't be overtaken by brand names.

Dreamer,. Yes you are so right! I will definitely talk with KD to remove the bin. The spice rack is to house my oils and vinegars as it's too hard to get too otherwise. It's the 450 space between fridge and cooker so quite narrow. But will do homework also look at more reasonably priced options!

My husband and son built drawers for our Bunnings pantries with Elraco products, excellent to deal with, they used to supply cabinets but not sure if they still do just check their website or call Errol.

the best extras we've added to numerous different kitchens have been adding extra shelves in cabinets...nb the standard single adjustable shelf is supported by small brackets that slip into predrilled holes and an extra shelf adds negligible extra cost but remarkable extra storage for dinnerware, casseroles, pie plates, serving dishes etc and also use vertical shelves in one wall cabinet to create easy access storage for cooking trays, cooling racks, pizza pans, muffin tins etc and all the herbs, spices, oils and sauces are in shallow shelves along the splashback enclosed with glass sliding doors

Oklouise. That's a fab idea. I love it. I will tell my KD to add these adjustable shelves and vertical shelves. I bake often and have acquired lots of items for baking like trays and pans also chopping boards. Your advice will be super handy. Thank you!!!

Extra shelves are just great. Have a look at the Hettich brand shelf studs. (CA 63549 )They plug in to the hole ABOVE each corner of the shelf and provide downward pressure on to the shelf. With narrower shelves fitted closer together it’s easy to knock shelves upwards and dislodge shelf contents. These little things cost about 10cents each and are genius.
No more flying glassware catastrophes.

Thank you for that brizcs. I've added this to the request list for KD. May as well get most bang for my bucks :)

Hi peeps, I thought to update! Since Covid lockdowns we ended up pushing back the Reno. However, we have stated this month again. Here is the new layout. We ended up moving the wall further out with the door to the laundry and did a nice recess feature wall. In doing so. We had room for the a pantry in the main kitchen which will have a sliding door.

Before

Now

Before

Now

We opened up the wall to make a walkway. Basically, closed up that laundry door near the bathroom. So now the way through the back entertaining/pergola area is through kitchen/laundry. And when you come in through the front door you no longer see the laundry but a nice recessed feature wall.

Where the ladder is, that will be the pantry. I would've liked a bigger pantry but the builder made a mistake measuring and we lost 100mm. Basically made the recess bigger. But was too late as wall was build.

Also, would have preferred a french door or sliding door rather than a window, but it was too much to do and we didn't want to sacrifice the space Since we couldn't make a french door to replace the window we opted for a servery window instead.

I'll update again when we've got the cabinets and everything else..

Thank you so much for all your wonderful ideas. It really helped us create our dream 🙂

3.5 months later. Final renovation result. We're well pleased. The kitchen and laundry feels much bigger and brighter. Thank you for all the ideas!

what a great result and well worth all your effort, congratulations

Congratulations on completing the reno, thanks for sharing the final lovely pics.

Great work. Hope you enjoy the spaces

Excellent result what a beautiful space you have created