While I understand your wanting to 'hide' dishes piled in sink etc, I highly recommend there be a decent-sized sink and dishwasher in kitchen. I think having only the one in pantry is impractical. Kitchens are work zones, first and foremost. I believe it is a matter of changing habits and routines, making the cleanup after meals, etc immediate, and recruiting everyone's assistance. Many hands make light work.

I also believe not having a sink in kitchen will affect resale value.

What about a window in the rumpus room (on the angled wall next to alfresco) so you can have a built-in window seat there?

The rumpus room is where we plan to send the teenagers and their mess, and it's a bit too far to take cereal to eat in the morning, my husband also suggested we could do that in the main bedroom, but feels a little far away.

Whilst we could change habits and routines, I don't think we are likely to. So maybe we should consider two sinks? I am just concerned then that would be a waste of money and in the end one wouldn't be used.

Also the living room looks out onto a pole (albeit it thin) to support the roof, and the rumpus looks onto a fence.

Hi Talitha. I apologise if I sounded smug about changing habits...it was not my intention. Believe me when I say I do understand the Dilemna. Yes, I believe a sink in kitchen is necessary. It could be one which is streamlined with your benchtop (undermount) and with a mixer which enhances the appearance of your kitchen yet still functional. The kitchen sink may not need to be as large as the one in pantry. I take it your dishwasher will also be in pantry? If so, may I suggest one in both? The one in kitchen could be a drawer-model in order to minimise lost storage space for you. The only reason I make these suggestions is that I firmly believe not having sink in kitchen will affect future resale value.

Funny you should mention window seat in bedroom...I was just looking through Houzz stories and came across one which showed window seat in a large bedroom.

Regarding window seat in living room, would a skylight be an option?

move the wall oven to the right of the stove and then consider omitting the wall between pantry and kitchen, tall wall cabinets at the end of the pantry over deeper base cabinets, make the island bench 900 deep for comfortable knee space and remove the wall between the kitchen and pantry to have easier access to the sink from the kitchen

annb1977, I didn't take it in the wrong way, I just know me, and I will leave a mess for my husband, so if I make the main dishes area in the pantry we can hide it a bit better. We were looking at the dishwasher in the pantry as well. I was just wondering whether the extra sink is necessary. And it sounds like a smaller one at least might be needed. A skylight may help, but I wasn't sure it would do much as it would probably be installed in the patio roof to angle towards the window, and I didn't know if it would work.

oklouise, as we are having a massive feature printed glass splashback behind the stove, I have deliberately tried to leave that wall blank to maximise that feature. So I didn't really want to have the wall oven or anything on that wall.

Maybe a chaise in lounge in LH corner of room, where roof overhang is less.

Hi there, I would just like to say that you have put a lot of thought into the visual appearance of your kitchen and love the ideas, but,

The space between cabinets is 1400 - 1500 which is too wide

The fridges in the pantry of a galley style kitchen will be a nightmare.

Having the new square deep sinks is a big help with making dishes disappear before being placed into the DW,

As second smaller square sink in the Island will be very important for family drinks etc.

Where and what oven are you planning

What is the dotted space across the end of the WIP? cheers

There is a hamper over the entrance and a bulkhead over the shelves on the back wall of the pantry.

Why would having the fridges in there be such a bad idea?

We did initially have the spaces between the benches as less but were advised that we should make them wider to allow more movement around each other in the kitchen.

We haven't confirmed ovens yet, the builder tends to use Smeg and Bianco, and we wanted to put two in the wall oven space.

Hi, I don't think you mentioned how many are in your family but the traffic to and from the fridge will be difficult, also having to go pass the cook top to get to them. Would you think that the kettle might be better next to the cook top so that the steam can be extracted via the range hood?.

Who has designed your kitchen,

As meme suggested to add to this, when you need to empty hot cooking water it's quite a distance between the cook top and sink so the second sink will be important. cheers

Thanks, we have 5 in the family, 2 adults and kids age 16, 14 and 4. we had a

I was going to put the kettle in a little alcove near the sink and the window, I saw these pictures below and liked them, but wanted to keep the splashback area as a feature hence moving the fridges back a little. We are even considering a ceiling mounted rangehood.

I did most of the designing of the house and kitchen, we started with a different house design and modified things to make it work on the block and to how we thought it would work for our life and the look we were after. But I know I don't have the experience of building or designing before. Hence asking for advise.

I don't know how to link people's Houzz pictures and usernames, but found this kitchen by Scott Bassett and I was trying for something similar.

https://st.hzcdn.com/fimgs/39624aa80a5ee65a_8796-w240-h320-b0-p0--home-design.jpg

As someone mentioned "form over function" is the wrong way around/ I love the materials you have chosen but feel your kitchen could function so much better for you and your family. You're getting lots of ideas. I would love to have a look at working another possible floor plan for you tomorrow, it's been a long day cheers

Yes, we have planned a servery window :)

Whilst the kids do use the fridge, they aren't always in it. We currently have a fridge at an entry point at the moment and it blocks the entry when someone is in it. So we don't think it works there. I was hoping to keep the fridge and freezer together. Whilst we could move the wall oven out, it isn't used frequently enough, and I think I would tend to use the pantry space as more of a second kitchen or main kitchen.

Yes I did notice where the fridge was in the photo that I liked, but I was trying to keep the fridge and freezer together as well.

Is there any guides that explain how to best find function in a kitchen layout?

We are happy to put a second sink in.

There's the magic triangle, Fridge/sink/cook top. I think a good indication that the layout could have problems was with the builder suggesting that you would need a wider space 1500 to allow for movement in the kitchen cheers.