Thanks again everyone. These are the best plans I have, still a little hard to read. https://www.dropbox.com/s/zlrfdddp702e45v/2nd%20floor.png?dl=0 Above are a few quick renders of the stair location/direction being changed, and a random woman to use for perspective! Thanks Oklouise! Siriuskey, is this (above) what you had in mind for the kitchen? Looks nice, not sure about cupboard space though? Laura really wanted a butlers pantry, but I don't think we have the space, but I was trying to have some sort of walk in pantry. And this was the last version I had designed before getting your suggestions on here: Not sure if this will work, but here is a link to the FloorPlanner project, if anyone wishes to tinker! https://plus.floorplanner.com/projects/53937748-our-houzz/viewer

I've been playing around with a pantry location. Originally, I was going to move the pantry into the laundry with some custom shelving and cut the laundry space in half. Now, Im thinking of cutting into the study area and building a wall there, and converting the new space into a long and narrow walk in pantry. Either that or build half a wall and put built in shelving in the study. Building the extra wall will reduce the need to cover in the door way that is currently in place and instead utilising it. Thoughts? p.s. this isnt too scale.

Hi Bec, sorry for taking so long to respond, I have been trying to find a way that could work for you I finally decided to do what I would if it was my house. It may seem extreme but for me it simplifies the angles, giving you a kitchen/dining/family/living The new Kitchen retains part of the old wall between the kitchen and living if needed to perform as load bearing, the island butts up to this, The rear southern wall of kitchen cabinets extends across the dining for extra storage or pantry and takes advantage of the French doors to the Alfresco. Moving the kitchen plumbing to the external southern wall should be achievable, having two plumbers in the family is a big plus I came to this idea after checking out the link you provided which is posted below which shows the whole floorplan and how it would flow and work for you and family when they visit, you can add doors between the family and dining if wanted. Again looking at the link ,your Spanline alfresco appears it may have been done in two stages, the first part has a gable roof which I would keep along with the brick wall and add white shutters above that and full height bi fold shutters across from the brick shuttered wall to the wall of the house. By removing the flat roof section but retaining the slab will help lighten the South facing bedrooms and open up the house to the lovely rear garden you mentioned https://www.houzz.com.au/discussions/5981026/inviting-suggestions-update-demolish-a-spanline-style-addition

1. removing the hall loses a separate bedroom and would spoil the original appearance of the house so i would keep the separate front entry hall and bedroom but, adding furniture helps show the lack of space so my suggestion would be to lose the wiw in favour of a bigger bedroom and bathroom and use a fee standing wardrobe or chest of drawers and the hallway closet for storage 2. stairs have to be placed in the available space to suit both levels and can't easily be moved so trying not to waste the under stairs space would be to use the kitchen for a pantry, under the family room stairs for a study nook and under the master bedroom stairs for walk in storage 3. and your floorplan for the kitchen and meals area is not scaled correctly for suitable kitchen and laundry cabinets and appliances and there's not enough space to add a powder room and hallway.to the existing laundry location..my suggestion would be to combine the laundry and powder room next to the guest room ensuite and allow for a more comfortable rumpus, kitchen and dining area with a more convenient access to the garage stairs