using the back porch may not be the best option as there may be other options that could give a better result but we need dimensions of all the rooms to make any suggestions...eg there may be enough space to add a shower next to the existing toilet to create a small bathroom and add a toilet into the main bathroom?? but depends on sizes of all the rooms...btw what is the triangle in the meals area?

There's already an ensuite available to the Master with an opening between it and the bathroom, it needs a WC as will the new family bathroom. possibly something like this

measurements of all the other rooms wiill help us answer your questions

Hi there Jo M,

I have resized your floor plan, it's not perfect but most likely as close as someone other then a Pro would measure, thought this might help as it can be a bit daunting cheers

You're welcome I just thought it might encourage others to make suggestions as well, I believe that there's an electronic gadget that you can get from Bunnings which the Estate Agents use to measure properties with ease, I must remember to check it out for myself. Love the front bedroom and the bay window and fireplace in the kitchen meals . How much renovating are you planning, what climate and how many family members, also what is the house built of. cheers

Siriuskey, We have already renovated the kitchen/meals and reinstated the hallway at front of house, and restored the fireplaces so. So bathroom sort out is next on the list. We only have 20K to do a 2nd bathroom, and the laundry needs to be renovated too, floor coverings, fixtures etc. The house is a weathboard Californian bungalow. 4 of us in the house, 2 adults and 2 young teens. thanks again for your help :) . Climate, cold winters, warm summers. North of Melbourne, Victoria.

Thanks oklousie, is there a door between the basin and wc/shower in your plan of the rear bathroom? Definitely food for thought. I will see if I can figure out one of these planning apps, to show the other areas of house where we have put walls/doors back in, which has made the front bedrooms more private. Thanks for your help, appreciated :)

the extra space in the bathroom is space taken form the biw and the handbasin is in the hallway outside the bathroom to allow for a 90cm wide vanity with storage as there may not be enough space inside the small bathroom for more than a tiny handbasin but more precise on site measurements may allow another option

Hi Jo M, Do you have paint on your computer, if so right click on the plan I did with measurements, copy image, open Paint Nd "Control V" to open the plan in Paint, You can zoom in and out. Using the pencil tool Hold down the shift key and draw a straight line. If not just use a pencil to draw the rooms roughly and add the sizes, and post that for us to see, hope this helps cheers

Jo, your budget is for 2nd bathroom and laundry, or just bathroom at this stage? If they are happening at roughly same time, it would help to know the current layout AND what changes you want to make there as well. It is interesting watching the bathroom plans develop. :)

Possible mew bathroom and laundry, bathroom is small but functional, but with keeping the separate Powder room toilet between the kids bedrooms will be a bonus. Along with both bedroom doors opening to this toilet space. You could add a lovely barn door sliding across the opening to the bedrooms and the toilet (powder room) back across the bedroom wall

Laundry is now in the old porch space with direct access to outside and the new deck. You could use a sliding door into the laundry from the house, it could be made to slide behind the laundry cabinets in that space and built in which would work better than a normal door, three doors in that small space could be difficult

You mentioned having reinstated the hallway which I'am guessing is coming in off the front Verandah, So with this and alterations to the master to include the exisiting bathroom as ensuite with new vanity and adding a WC. should be the cheapest way to achieve the extra spaces that you are looking for cheers

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